New Manager for Liverpool 2.0

[Doc_Piptorious]

I like the idea of Alonso, but at the moment I worry that I am thinking of the options with my heart rather than my head, as I always thought he would be a good manager. My head says as well as he is doing at the moment he's only been in the role for 18 months, so is still relatively unproven, but of Al the options out there him and possibly de Zerbi appear the most suitable options

Even take Alonso's history with us out of it.


I think any young manager in major league with no losses in all competitions this season would be catching the eye of a lot of big clubs.

[DerKrampus]

Even take Alonso's history with us out of it.


I think any young manager in major league with no losses in all competitions this season would be catching the eye of a lot of big clubs.

Particularly on the back of a unique and effective style of football.

Imagine how he could mould players like Bajcetic too!

Maybe Thiago wasn't injured all this time but instead doing coaching badges to be Alonso's #2?..

[RedReet]

I'll take this superior to Guardiola fella that you describe!

Now, aside from, Klopp, who exactly is he?

That's a big appeal about Xabi for me. There are plenty of good managers out there with good records that could do a good job for us. At this stage Xabi is a relatively unknown entity with an outrageous, albeit limited record. He could be a generational manager, he could break records everywhere he goes, he could be anything at this stage. Replacing Klopp with an established manager may be a sensible move, but can only be a downgrade as far as I'm concerned. I can convince myself at this stage that Xabi could continue Klopp's good work, maybe even refine it further and keep the good times rolling.

]Don't think that should be the [/B]benchmark.

A Klopp v2.0 or a Baldiola v2.0 should not be what we aim for.

What we need is the guy we think has the potential to turn world class at the helm of LFC and that becomes New guy Version 1.0.

Do think that what might be almost as important as getting in the new manager is the putting in place a DOF/Analytics set up that works as well with the manager as what we had in the Klopp/Edwards set up.

I'm not saying look for the next Klopp or Guardiola (actually the opposite, ignore the wannabe 'next Guardiola'). I'm saying to overcome City's financial advantage we need to try and unearth a manager potentially better than Guardiola, or a whole setup as you suggest superior to City's. But ultimately the manager will be the most import piece, so someone like Arteta is a complete no-go for me, regardless of personality or allegiances.

[Slinky Skills]

https://theathletic.com/5083647/2023/11/24/girona-la-liga-manchester-city-pep-guardiola/

Girona are flying high in La Liga, a piece about their Manager Michel here.

[Mark79]

That's a big appeal about Xabi for me. There are plenty of good managers out there with good records that could do a good job for us. At this stage Xabi is a relatively unknown entity with an outrageous, albeit limited record. He could be a generational manager, he could break records everywhere he goes, he could be anything at this stage. Replacing Klopp with an established manager may be a sensible move, but can only be a downgrade as far as I'm concerned. I can convince myself at this stage that Xabi could continue Klopp's good work, maybe even refine it further and keep the good times rolling.

I agree. Ideally we’d have a full energy Klopp until 2026, by which time Xabi would hopefully have established himself as an obvious successor (or the opposite). It’d be a bit of a leap of faith to get him this early, but it feels like he’s the real deal.

None of the other names are jumping out as clear choices to me either.

[spud_gun]

https://theathletic.com/5083647/2023...pep-guardiola/

Girona are flying high in La Liga, a piece about their Manager Michel here.

Girona are owned by the same group that own Citeh.

Would be surprised.if he made the move to us

[red g]

Don;'t know too much about him but seen a few of his ex players talk up Arne Slot as a brilliant manager.

https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/arne-slot-feyenoord-az-alkmaar-tactics/

[Mr Pink]

Alonso would be a big risk I reckon, but think it’s one we should take. If he continues as he’s going, one of the big clubs will snap him up for sure, soon enough - now’s our chance to get him. With the other managers considered, we know more about their ceilings, and it’s a big downgrade from what we have atm.

[Charly]

They are all big risks though. Almost nobody has won titles at teams who are not the richest in the league.

That leaves chequebook managers or trophyless managers.

[Corndog]

Putting aside the sort of man Howe comes across as being and taking him on footy terms only I would still not want him anywhere near the job tbh.


Comes across as very much a yes man whose tactics and savvy appears quite limited for any level about mid to lower table.

Seems clueless when it comes to squad rotation, the use of subs (be it for impact purposes or for negating team fatigue), tactically seems rigid and for me appears destined to become badlyt dated very quickly thanks to that tactical rigidity.


Oh yeah and because he comes across as a thin skinned ******

He wouldn’t be one of my first choices but you can’t claim that a manager who got Newcastle into the champions league doesn’t understand squad rotation or tactics 😂😂

He overachieved massively with them last year.

[Norbs]

Alonso would be a big risk I reckon, but think it’s one we should take. If he continues as he’s going, one of the big clubs will snap him up for sure, soon enough - now’s our chance to get him. With the other managers considered, we know more about their ceilings, and it’s a big downgrade from what we have atm.

Biggest concern with Xabi is that if he were to leave Leverkusen so willingly then he'd do the same further down his career. It's catch 22

[RedReet]

Biggest concern with Xabi is that if he were to leave Leverkusen so willingly then he'd do the same further down his career. It's catch 22

That's a bit of a leap there Norbs.

[Slinky Skills]

Would Ancellotti want to make the move to us do you think? Last chance to have a challenge again before retiring?

[Kenneth]

No. And why would we want to appoint a manager on the verge of retirement?

[Sus]

Challenge with Xabi is there would be a lot of learning on the job, given he only has 18 months experience

We would have to believe he is a generational talent to ride that rollercoaster, all with the constant risk of Madrid coming for him two years later once we’ve made him a better manager