Welcome to Liverpool FC, Federico Chiesa Cavaliere

[memzey]

You might be right, of course, as we only have eyeballs during games to make our assessments and the staff have more to go on. I don't see a lack of pace or physicality from Chiesa in the small cameos (and few starts) he has contributed thus far.

I also think Semenyo is having a purple patch in terms of G/A and is generally overrated.

[frank the tank]

I am not too sure to be honest. If Chiesa leaves and does amazing somewhere else in the premier league, then you will be proved right. I just think there must be something else..... otherwise the sporting director and other football administrators would be intervening. I reckon his pace is gone and it's no surprise that impacts he makes seem to be in the box as opposed to in wide positions.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in January window - because we go and bring someone like Semenyo in instead.

[Harv]

No, at least, not for me. I wouldn't want my manager sacked because he doesn't rate one our players as highly as I do. I'm not, after all, a Spurs fan.

His continual, stubborn selection of apparent favourites when things obviously aren't working? That certainly is a bad sign and one worth making us consider his future for. His apparently poor judgement with respect to using Wirtz, Isak and Ekitike and some of his man-management shortcomings, which have become more obvious, as time has progressed? Certainly adds more wood behind that particular arrow.

The win against West Ham was fun but I still think he's cooked.

I should've added, this is a general thing. Not isolated to Chiesa like my post makes it seem. Fede has just been the most obvious example.

[memzey]

His treatment by Slot is actually quite disgusting and (other than the slow, boring football we play) a large part of why I really hope he gets the sack soon

No, at least, not for me. I wouldn't want my manager sacked because he doesn't rate one our players as highly as I do. I'm not, after all, a Spurs fan.

His continual, stubborn selection of apparent favourites when things obviously aren't working? That certainly is a bad sign and one worth making us consider his future for. His apparently poor judgement with respect to using Wirtz, Isak and Ekitike and some of his man-management shortcomings, which have become more obvious, as time has progressed? Certainly adds more wood behind that particular arrow.

The win against West Ham was fun but I still think he's cooked.

[Harv]

His treatment by Slot is actually quite disgusting and (other than the slow, boring football we play) a large part of why I really hope he gets the sack soon

[Paul12]

Can't let them go without replacing thrm, yet money will be scarce
after getting a centre-back.

Unless we need to raise cash vecause Elliott is coming back and therefore not a nailed on sale.

[leftpeg]

Tragic waste of a player if that happens. Hope he stays.

Couldn't agree more.

[memzey]

Being linked with West Ham...

Tragic waste of a player if that happens. Hope he stays.

[Yozza]

Being linked with West Ham...

[danperkins]

What's he supposed to do? This just shows Slot's hatred of him really - don't play the guy with the 1st's, but then play him with a bunch of kids and expect miracles. Gives him the perfect excuse to carry on with his absurd treatment of the guy.

I expect the same treatment of Ramsey too now. By all accounts he looked good at RB. He'll never be seen in a red shirt again though because Slots got some weird gripe with players that were injured when he started here.

I don't disagree & yeah Slot clearly does not rate him.. same as Endo even though you at least will get effort and fight from both. I have no doubts neither will not start vs Villa & we will see the same under performing players starting.

[danperkins]

What's he supposed to do? This just shows Slot's hatred of him really - don't play the guy with the 1st's, but then play him with a bunch of kids and expect miracles. Gives him the perfect excuse to carry on with his absurd treatment of the guy.

I expect the same treatment of Ramsey too now. By all accounts he looked good at RB. He'll never be seen in a red shirt again though because Slots got some weird gripe with players that were injured when he started here.

I don't disagree & yeah Slot clearly does not rate him.. same as Endo even though you at least will get effort and fight from both. I have no doubts neither will not start vs Villa & we will see the same under performing players starting in the same ineffective system.

[Harv]

He has been under used but we can't pretend that he's some kind of amazing player that will turn our season around. He's ok, he at least puts a shift in and in fairness to him, he hasn't got a fair shake. In saying that, he was crap last night like everyone else. I think we all know Mo will start vs Villa.

What's he supposed to do? This just shows Slot's hatred of him really - don't play the guy with the 1st's, but then play him with a bunch of kids and expect miracles. Gives him the perfect excuse to carry on with his absurd treatment of the guy.

I expect the same treatment of Ramsey too now. By all accounts he looked good at RB. He'll never be seen in a red shirt again though because Slots got some weird gripe with players that were injured when he started here.

[Doc_Piptorious]

He has been under used but we can't pretend that he's some kind of amazing player that will turn our season around. He's ok, he at least puts a shift in and in fairness to him, he hasn't got a fair shake. In saying that, he was crap last night like everyone else. I think we all know Mo will start vs Villa.

He is a player that when he gets minutes will put in a shift, will bother the other team's defence and who holds up the ball well whilst linking well with teammates.


Those things alone make him an amazing player compared to the shifts being put in by some of our other players at present.

[danperkins]

He has been under used but we can't pretend that he's some kind of amazing player that will turn our season around. He's ok, he at least puts a shift in and in fairness to him, he hasn't got a fair shake. In saying that, he was crap last night like everyone else. I think we all know Mo will start vs Villa.

[kingfunk]

Well the fact he played so much last night means it's probably a maximum of 10 mins for him at the weekend...

He’ll probably come on with all the other strikers when we’re losing to villa in injury time.