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  • Doc_Piptorious
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    Originally posted by SB View Post
    Apparently that’s the role he’s filled for us for the past number of games. Slot probably believes he’s not fast enough on the wings so has tried him centrally.

    Pretty sure that's where he played and scored from when he was on in the final against Newcastle.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by Paul12 View Post
    Yes, but only if he is good in that role...and there needs to be more evidence of that before I'd be inclined to start a season assuming it'll work out.
    Apparently that’s the role he’s filled for us for the past number of games. Slot probably believes he’s not fast enough on the wings so has tried him centrally.

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  • Paul12
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    Yes, but only if he is good in that role...and there needs to be more evidence of that before I'd be inclined to start a season assuming it'll work out.

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  • SB
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    Ornstein suggesting we might keep Chiesa & play him centrally which makes sense . Less disruption if Darwin is sold plus potentially Diaz going too.

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  • Buzzo
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    Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
    I think what Dan means by "disaster" is a signing that hasn't worked out yet and might or might not yet. It's a bit like his match threads commentary where we're "dog****" but only dog**** in the sense of the opposing team trying to win too but us still being top of the league. The sort of dog**** that if you walked in it, you'd be quite pleased. It's a nuanced use of normally negative terms. He's making insults great again by inverting their meaning.

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  • Harv
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    Originally posted by badpiggy View Post
    I think what Dan means by "disaster" is a signing that hasn't worked out yet and might or might not yet. It's a bit like his match threads commentary where we're "dog****" but only dog**** in the sense of the opposing team trying to win too but us still being top of the league. The sort of dog**** that if you walked in it, you'd be quite pleased. It's a nuanced use of normally negative terms. He's making insults great again by inverting their meaning.

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  • danperkins
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    Originally posted by rudedog View Post
    Ah ok, it seems you just have a different definition of ‘disaster’ than me

    I’d agree if he had played, missed sitters or got sent off which cost us games. Or caused issues/rifts in the squad or did stupid stuff off the pitch. Or if signing him meant we missed out on another target.


    Not contributing on its own, isn’t a disaster. We can move him on with no real impact
    A wasted signing imo is a disaster and can be the difference between getting knocked out of the Champs League and winning the league cup. Would have liked to see him get more game time to properly judge and rest Salah up when he's not on it but Slot clearly doesn't rate him. Another bizarre, non event Liverpool signing
    Last edited by danperkins; 17-03-25, 10:44 PM.

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  • kingfunk
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    Thought he looked brilliant when he came on, full of energy, snappy, always looking to get forward, done more that Diaz, Jota and Salah combined, if he doesn’t get a start in the prem this season it’s a travesty.
    Regarding mo, I’m fine if he gets a contract but he needs to be sat down and told straight, at his age he can not expect to start every league game, not his fault but time waits for no man, he needs to be rotated, simple as. If he’s going to sulk about it, then he might aswell head to Saudi.

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  • BG1973
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    Originally posted by rudedog View Post
    Ah ok, it seems you just have a different definition of ‘disaster’ than me

    I’d agree if he had played, missed sitters or got sent off which cost us games. Or caused issues/rifts in the squad or did stupid stuff off the pitch. Or if signing him meant we missed out on another target.


    Not contributing on its own, isn’t a disaster. We can move him on with no real impact
    Or he cost more than sixpence.

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  • SB
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    Originally posted by rudedog View Post
    Ah ok, it seems you just have a different definition of ‘disaster’ than me

    I’d agree if he had played, missed sitters or got sent off which cost us games. Or caused issues/rifts in the squad or did stupid stuff off the pitch. Or if signing him meant we missed out on another target.


    Not contributing on its own, isn’t a disaster. We can move him on with no real impact
    I’m with you on this. A strange signing in that we don’t play him but far from a disaster

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  • badpiggy
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    I think what Dan means by "disaster" is a signing that hasn't worked out yet and might or might not yet. It's a bit like his match threads commentary where we're "dog****" but only dog**** in the sense of the opposing team trying to win too but us still being top of the league. The sort of dog**** that if you walked in it, you'd be quite pleased. It's a nuanced use of normally negative terms. He's making insults great again by inverting their meaning.

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  • rudedog
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    We could but we have not benefitted for his signing on the pitch where it matters most and he hasn't helped the team get results. Not only that we've actually hardly seen him, the whole thing is weird. I said disaster signing, not financial disaster.
    Ah ok, it seems you just have a different definition of ‘disaster’ than me

    I’d agree if he had played, missed sitters or got sent off which cost us games. Or caused issues/rifts in the squad or did stupid stuff off the pitch. Or if signing him meant we missed out on another target.


    Not contributing on its own, isn’t a disaster. We can move him on with no real impact
    Last edited by rudedog; 17-03-25, 04:35 PM.

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  • danperkins
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    We could but we have not benefitted for his signing on the pitch where it matters most and he hasn't helped the team get results. Not only that we've actually hardly seen him, the whole thing is weird. I said disaster signing, not financial disaster.

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  • rudedog
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    Originally posted by danperkins View Post
    It's a disaster in the sense that we signed someone who hasn't really contributed whatsoever and who the current manager really doesn't seem to trust and is reportedly on 120k pw. You can't explain it away with 'Ah it's a low transfer fee so it's fine', it is a signing and new players don't have to be big money signing to make a real difference to the team. We've barely seen what Chiesa looks like ffs, it's all a bit odd.
    But we could sell him for double what we paid which would more than make up the 120k wages

    Cost: 10m
    Wages: 120k per wk
    Selling fee: 20m

    20m - (10m + (0.12 x52)) = 3.76m profit

    Not a disaster
    Last edited by rudedog; 17-03-25, 02:18 PM.

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  • danperkins
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    Originally posted by labourRed View Post
    Definitely not a disaster of a signing.

    Small fee and he's only had one poor performance against Plymouth wherein the whole team were new to each other and ****e.

    If we had signed Endo in the summer you'd be saying the same...

    The truth is Slot just doesn't trust certain players (or prefers to play the same team).

    I think he has to learn on that front - might get away with that in Holland but not here. I think he was clear on periodisation but the plan fell a little short, as we've seen these last few weeks/months.
    It's a disaster in the sense that we signed someone who hasn't really contributed whatsoever and who the current manager really doesn't seem to trust and is reportedly on 120k pw. You can't explain it away with 'Ah it's a low transfer fee so it's fine', it is a signing and new players don't have to be big money signing to make a real difference to the team. We've barely seen what Chiesa looks like ffs, it's all a bit odd.
    Last edited by danperkins; 17-03-25, 02:05 PM.

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