Welcome to Liverpool FC, Federico Chiesa Cavaliere

[memzey]

While Endo is an amazing passer

No he isn't.

he definitely isn’t a liability with the ball.

Yes he is.

I don’t know where this has come from.

All of his performances so far this season, for starters.

what’s needed more is some defensive solidity in the middle of the pitch and discipline

And someone who will consistently find a teammate with the ball, even when under pressure. That, unfortunately, isn't our Endo.

Someone to sit who will get stuck in and win the ball and battle and show some aggression and fight. He’s a captain and a leader with bags of experience.

No argument there. When it's backs against the wall and anywhere will do, Endo is a great option to have.

[peterbread]

No he isn't.

Yes he is.

All of his performances so far this season, for starters.

And someone who will consistently find a teammate with the ball, even when under pressure. That, unfortunately, isn't our Endo.

No argument there. When it's backs against the wall and anywhere will do, Endo is a great option to have.

While Endo is an amazing passer was a typo. It should have been while Endo isn’t an amazing passer. But I stand by the rest. Go back and watch his first season and you’ll see that.

It feels like the basics in the team are dropping this season and they can’t make simple passes either.

[Doc_Piptorious]

No he isn't.

Yes he is.

All of his performances so far this season, for starters.

And someone who will consistently find a teammate with the ball, even when under pressure. That, unfortunately, isn't our Endo.

No argument there. When it's backs against the wall and anywhere will do, Endo is a great option to have.

Just looked on Fbref as I was of a similar opinion as you with regards to his distribution of the ball.

He has played eff all minutes in the league this season. 39 minutes to be exact, but his passing has actually being quite good in those 39 mins.



He attempted 22 passes and completed 19 of them giving him an 86.4% completion rate.

Broken down into short, medium and long passing he is as follows.

Short - 14/16 passes successful or an 87.5% completion rate.

Medium - 3/4 passes were on target. 75% completion rate.

Long - 2/2. 100% completion rate.


All of his passes were in play so no dead balls, free kicks, corners etc to skew his numbers.

In his 39 minutes, he also created two chances that led to shots on goal.



So he has been one of the better players, albeit over a tiny sample of minutes, in terms of him finding a teammate wth a pass.

[memzey]

The 39 minutes in Fbref is just his Prem minutes and I'd guess that they have largely been played when we have had something to defend - the scenario I suggest he is well suited for. He's played more minutes in the league cup and that's where his limitations with the ball become more evident.

I'll leave the Endo chat here; If and when he gets a starting birth in midfield, we'll see if what I'm referring to is real or not. I can see a number of "FFS Endo" comments in the that match thread.

[Doc_Piptorious]

The 39 minutes in Fbref is just his Prem minutes and I'd guess that they have largely been played when we have had something to defend - the scenario I suggest he is well suited for. He's played more minutes in the league cup and that's where his limitations with the ball become more evident.

I'll leave the Endo chat here; If and when he gets a starting birth in midfield, we'll see if what I'm referring to is real or not. I can see a number of "FFS Endo" comments in the that match thread.

Fine Footballing Skills?

[memzey]

[Doc_Piptorious]

Is better than what first came into my head which was Fleet footed samurai.

[Norbs]

Freakishly fit Sumo

[memzey]

Fluent French Speaker.

[Doc_Piptorious]

FFS

[peterbread]

Finally ****ing starting Endo. I’d love to see that in the match thread

[vlahka]

Sick to the back teeth of how Endo and Chiesa get **** all from Slot. Klopp would be using both of them frequently.

[Bloodraven]

What did you guys think of his performance the other day? Worthy of a starting place ahead of Salah for the next few months?

[SB]

What did you guys think of his performance the other day? Worthy of a starting place ahead of Salah for the next few months?

Apart from the highlights I’ve only seen the 1st half & I was perplexed why we refused to attract using the right side for the majority of that half. We played it across the back line & Konate refused to keep it going but elected to go back to the left side. No doubt it was Slots tactics but Chiesa was trying to make runs in behind but being overlooked repeatedly. They played 2 long balls over the top that were over hit & went out for a GK so not Fede’s fault. I’d certainly give him another start in one of the next few matches

[danperkins]

I'm not saying Chiesa is the answer long term, he isn't but unfortunately for him if by some miracle he does get a start and doesn't play well, it's 'That's why he shouldn't start'. He's in such a tough spot that he has to take every single opportunity or else. He won't be here much longer anyways and it's pretty obvious that Slot doesn't rate him whatsoever.