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    More like Stan Collymore...

    There are 125 million reasons why Alexander Isak is becoming a big problem for Liverpool

    It is 30 years since Liverpool smashed the British transfer record to sign Stan Collymore, a brilliant, brutally effective centre-forward with the build of a cruiserweight boxer and skills that, on his day, made him almost unplayable.

    He was the match-winner on his debut against Sheffield Wednesday, conjuring an eye-catching goal out of nothing, and scored another beauty against reigning champions Blackburn Rovers a month later, but, behind the scenes, cracks soon appeared. From an early stage, he felt out of place at Anfield, cold-shouldered in the dressing room and an awkward fit in a team whose commitment to pass-and-move football was at odds with the strengths he had showcased at Nottingham Forest.

    Just six games into his Liverpool career, Collymore aired his frustrations in an interview that was outspoken even by the unfiltered standards of the time. “I don’t know of any other industry,” he told FourFourTwo magazine, “that would lay out £8.5m on anything and then not have some plan from day one on how they’re going to use it.”

    By the time the magazine hit the shelves two months later, in November 1995, things had gotten worse. He had not added to those two early goals, with the veteran Ian Rush and the prodigious Robbie Fowler often preferred in attack.

    Thirty years on, another British record acquisition is enduring an even more chastening start to his Liverpool career. Since completing that highly acrimonious, record-breaking deadline-day move from Newcastle United, Isak’s only goal has come in a Carabao Cup tie against Southampton. His first four league starts for Liverpool have all ended in defeat, the first time that has happened to a Liverpool player since 1906.

    In the abject 3-0 loss to Nottingham Forest on Saturday, he was substituted midway through the second half, having touched the ball just 15 times.

    There is no shortage of problems for Arne Slot to address at Liverpool, whose Premier League title defence has crumbled in alarming style with six defeats in their last seven matches, but the struggles of his £125m ($163.7m) centre-forward are high on the list.

    The big question here is whether this is a short-term issue, which will soon be resolved once he has built up his match fitness after forfeiting a proper pre-season programme in order to force his departure from Newcastle, or whether there are deeper issues.

    Collymore got over that difficult start to his Liverpool career by adapting his game, running the channels and stretching defences in order to create more space for Fowler, with whom his partnership began to flourish.

    But it did not last. He grew disillusioned and was sold to Aston Villa after two seasons.

    Far more enduring than his impact on Merseyside was that line about the excesses of football’s transfer market. So often players are signed at enormous expense while appearing less compatible with the team they are joining — think Fernando Torres (Chelsea, £50m), Paul Pogba (Manchester United, £90m) and Jack Grealish (Manchester City, £100m).

    The psychological burden of a big transfer fee can prove far heavier than imagined, but there are also times when, as Collymore suggested, clubs appear fixated on signing a certain player without having given serious consideration to how to use him.

    The Isak deal did not seem to fall into that category. Liverpool’s recruitment team, led by Michael Edwards and Richard Hughes, is highly regarded within the game. They set their sights on Isak long before the club secured the title last April. This, along with the capture of Florian Wirtz from Bayer Leverkusen, was the centrepiece of a rebuild designed to elevate a title-winning team to an even higher level.

    All the data, as well as the eye test, told them that Isak and Liverpool were compatible, and that a player who was just about to turn 26, approaching the peak of his powers, would enhance a successful side.

    Instead, Isak arrived unfit, joining a team in a state of flux. Whatever his claims of “broken promises” at Newcastle, his refusal to train in the build-up to the season has hurt everyone: his former club, himself, Liverpool and the Sweden national team, who finished bottom of their World Cup qualifying group.

    Slot spoke frankly at his pre-match news conference on Friday about needing to find the balance, in his selections, between “what is the best for him as an individual and for us a team”.

    “I do know that a 100 per cent fit Alexander Isak is a big, big plus,” the Liverpool manager added. “But for him to get there, he might need to have minutes where you could argue that another player might be further ahead of him in terms of match fitness.”

    The other player in question, Hugo Ekitike, made a wonderful start to his Liverpool career, scoring five goals in his first eight appearances and bringing the kind of speed, clever movement and goal threat that Isak was meant to represent. It has led to questions about whether Liverpool even needed Isak, given that both players are of a similar technical profile and that, barring a change of system, there seems to have been little intention to play them in tandem.

    The matter is complicated, like so much at Liverpool this season, by the dreadful impact of Diogo Jota’s death, with Slot telling reporters in September that the tragedy meant the club were effectively forced to bring in two No 9s.

    There was a logic behind signing Ekitike and Isak, but the pressure to build up the latter’s fitness has complicated Slot’s job further at a time when he has already been dealing with various structural and tactical problems, as well as a crisis of confidence. After such a promising start, Ekitike’s momentum has stalled: he has just one goal in his past nine appearances.

    For Isak, the packed schedule means there will be playing time in the weeks ahead, but the notion of “playing him into form” was severely undermined on Saturday. He looked like a passenger and, right now, Liverpool cannot afford passengers.

    There remains the expectation that, at some point, things will click. He has, after all, signed a contract until 2031, so the wisdom or otherwise of his acquisition should be evaluated over the course of six years rather than his first eight appearances.

    But Isak’s failure to hit the ground running — to put it mildly — has created a pressure and a level of scrutiny that threatens to make life so much more difficult. Right now, Isak’s first few months as the Premier League’s most expensive footballer could hardly have gone worse.

    Recruitment is so much more sophisticated than it was in Collymore’s day, drawing on data and hugely detailed analysis, but there are still so many imponderables and intangibles, so many reasons why spending vast sums of money is fraught with risk.

    These are still early days, but right now the Isak deal threatens to become a case in point.
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      Collymore is a good comparison. Although we got 7m back for him - the equivalent percentage back for Isak on the 125m outlay would be just shy of 103m. If some cunt was willing to pay us 103m for him now, we should snap their hands off.

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        The way we are playing, we are making anyone we play as a 9 look poor.

        Salah and Gakpo keep cutting in and looking to take a shot. The from the middle we have no runners from deep looking to get onto a ball held up by the 9 and no midfielders looking to play balls in front of an advancing 9.

        Ekitike looks as starved of service as Isak does, and both will be passengers when we do not base at least some of our attacking play around their strengths.
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          Agree completely that we've not exactly played to their strengths. And also wouldnt mind seeing Gakpo and Salah rested because of that.

          But there is no excuse for Isak imo. 15 touches of the ball against forest is ****in garbage no matter how we play. And a few of them would be taking kick offs for **** sake!!! Drop deep and get involved if you need to.

          ****in pathetic. That is worse that prime-**** Mario or Rickie

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            After the west ham game, the motd analysis from shearer was saying how our other players are not playing the ball quick enough with their first touch.
            Isak is about to make the run into space but then the guy with the ball takes a second touch, or takes the play backwards.
            Isak left frustrated not getting the quicker ball played in.
            We need to be less worried about keeping possession and feed the ball more quickly.
            removing all the weak links makes us stronger

            too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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              Fair enough but I think he also needs to be on some of those balls Wirtz put across the box too.

              Great finish though
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                Great finish, hopefully he can build on this.

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                  Originally posted by baitman View Post
                  ...We need to be less worried about keeping possession ....
                  Hasn't seemed much of a priority for a while now.

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                    David Ngog, sorry Isak….. languishing on page 2

                    He looks miles off it

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                      Longest preseason catch up ever.
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                        The fee was insane.

                        FsG lost their heads

                        He is going to stuggle to live up to it unless he is hitting 30 a season
                        Last edited by Charly; 13-12-25, 06:52 PM.
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                          I think with him the idea was more about quality than quantity. The goals that get you wins against your direct rivals in the UK and Europe. Virgil has been probably the best defender in the world for most of his time with us and Isak is one of the very few that made him look normal instead of superhuman.
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                            Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                            I think with him the idea was more about quality than quantity. The goals that get you wins against your direct rivals in the UK and Europe. Virgil has been probably the best defender in the world for most of his time with us and Isak is one of the very few that made him look normal instead of superhuman.
                            We might need to wait until next season to see it perhaps but as of now he looks like David Ngog

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                              Originally posted by Catrin View Post
                              I think with him the idea was more about quality than quantity. The goals that get you wins against your direct rivals in the UK and Europe. Virgil has been probably the best defender in the world for most of his time with us and Isak is one of the very few that made him look normal instead of superhuman.
                              We always buy a player that looks outstanding against us.
                              Diaz, nunez, isak, semenyo...
                              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

                              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                                It’s early days, I’ve no doubt he will be very good for us when it eventually clicks.

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