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    #76
    Sacking Rafa would be a bit rash...how would that help us? And who would we replace him with? There doesn't seem to be a bumper crop of talented English managers out there, otherwise I think you guys would have done better than McClaren. And I don't think we'd attract any top foreign managers with our limited finances.

    We've just got to accept, unfortunately, that we're once again playing for third place. It sucks, but that's reality. Unfortunately, we've been derailed by a number of things this season, whether it be the disappointing early-season form of players like Gerrard and Alonso, the introduction of so many new players who need time to settle, or the multitude of injuries we've sustained.

    Sure, Rafa's made some lousy buys, but so has any other manager. I still think it's too early to pass judgment on the new arrivals just yet. Paletta hasn't seen much of the first team at all, so I can't comment on him. Agger looks like the real deal. Bellamy hasn't had enough of a run, thanks to injuries and his recent court dealings. Aurelio's had injury problems as well. Pennant and Gonzalez have been the biggest disappointments--but I think we should still give them until the end of the season, although form and fitness should determine whether or not they get playing time.

    For now, I think we've got to be patient. We're way behind Chelsea and Man U, and it's highly doubtful we'll catch either of them. But 3rd place is there for the taking, and I'm confident that we can finish there. ManU away, Arsenal away, Chelsea away, Bolton away, Everton away--all those fixtures are behind us.

    Meanwhile, we've got to find out which players should be held on to and which ones should be let go. Given the disappointing form of certain players, I'd be happy to give some of the young players a chance to show what they can do.

    With respect to transfers, I don't want to see us overpay for any more average players. I have a feeling that plenty of the young lads in the reserves have the potential to be average players at best, and we should save our funds for players who are definitely going to improve the team. Our downfall under Houllier was, in my mind, largely due to the fact that, after finishing second, we brought in players who didn't offer anything more than those already in the squad. When healthy, our squad's plenty big, and from now on I'd rather see us strengthen our squad with two 15-million pound players than simply enlarge it with five six-million pound players. Furthermore, too much chopping and changing from year to year isn't the best idea. Many times this season, our players have looked like they just don't know how to play together, and it's going to take time to sort that out.

    Keeping my fingers crossed for the Wigan game...

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      #77
      Im going to say it.......

      Speedy is a cock
      "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

      "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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        #78
        Nah nah na nah na!

        Please keep your (entirely justified) dissing of Speedy in the appropriate threads HBM
        I could not dig, I dared not rob:
        Therefore I lied to please the mob.
        Now all my lies are proved untrue
        And I must face the men I slew.
        What tale shall serve me here among
        Mine angry and defrauded young?

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          #79
          Originally posted by Speedy View Post
          We were miles off the pace and had no chance of winning the league come february and very little chance of second. We went on a good run at the nothing end of the season whilst the top 2's positions had been settled and they dropped points against some ****e or other.

          But you agree with the rest of the post?
          bull****...that proves you arnt one of us!

          we went on a 10 game winning streak before and after christmas...it was broken in Japan when we lost to Sao Paulo

          we played some cracking football during that span aswell. We really hit our straps.

          Rafa will turn it around, we are extremely low on confidence, and now we have a injury crisis....it cant get much worse.


          yet still we can go third on saturday


          its not that bad
          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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            #80
            How can people blame Benitez when it's the players who are supposed to be doing the job on the pitch, i don't know ? All i can see is rash judgements after 15 odd games. Let the season finish and then make judgements. Not now, where it's clear some players are low in confidence (Pennant in particular) and others aren't in top form.

            There is no miracle cure for this, but we probably are liable to our poor start to the season. We're 16 points off the top and the players are beginning to lack in belief to win games ... That's a vicious circle.

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              #81
              The idea of getting rid of Rafa now is ridiculous.

              But I do agree our form is extremelly worrying. We may have won on Saturday too but our display was again less then impressive. We just lack cohesion and a general system of play. Actually I should say we do have a system. Knock it long to Crouch and cross it in from deep. That's about all we do. We've got no idea or creativity.

              Sounds familiar to our complaints under GH though doesn't it?

              What happened to the pass and move Football Rafa's Valencia played?

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                #82
                Originally posted by LFCman View Post
                The idea of getting rid of Rafa now is ridiculous.

                But I do agree our form is extremelly worrying. We may have won on Saturday too but our display was again less then impressive. We just lack cohesion and a general system of play. Actually I should say we do have a system. Knock it long to Crouch and cross it in from deep. That's about all we do. We've got no idea or creativity.

                Sounds familiar to our complaints under GH though doesn't it?

                What happened to the pass and move Football Rafa's Valencia played?
                we just dont have the players to play that style.

                were in a serious funk at the moment....we just need a game were everything goes right, like last seasons game against Brum...that will instill confidence, and victories will follow suit.

                BTW, hows your banner going? ready for the game tomorrow?
                "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

                "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Harveybirdman View Post
                  we just dont have the players to play that style.

                  were in a serious funk at the moment....we just need a game were everything goes right, like last seasons game against Brum...that will instill confidence, and victories will follow suit.

                  BTW, hows your banner going? ready for the game tomorrow?
                  I can't bloody wait!

                  I've done my fist flag: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...fistpaint3.gif

                  I wanted to do the bird and a 'Baixinho' one but haven't had the time. I'll try and do them for next week or the week after. Got my overhead projector yesterday which will help.

                  Look out for banners paying out the Victory for missing out on a spot in the 2007 Asian Champions League.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Speedy View Post
                    BENITEZ OUT!


                    Call me rash or whatever, but we deserve a manager who can give us a shot at the league. Benitez hasn't got a clue in that repsect. I've got my tin hat ready, but i'd like the decent posters to answer me why he should STILL be manager.



                    Thanks for the memories Rafa, but no thanks.

                    We'd look a bit daft if we got rid of him now or even next season and then all these 17-18 years olds he's buying turn out to be brilliant.

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Bob View Post
                      Benitez has been truly awful since the start of the summer. Don't cover me with that blanket. It won't wash.
                      .

                      This was the point of my post/poll about Rafa the other week. Well said Bob.

                      What really peturbs me about this season is that things are clearly not working and Rafa appears to show no idea of how to change it and put it right. We've played the same boring, predictable tactics in every single game and it simply isn't working - and yet we persist.........

                      I've old enough to have seen some dreadful performances by Liverpool - but the string of non-performances put up by Rafa's team this season takes some beating. It really does.
                      Liverpool born and bred.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Speedy View Post
                        We should have got O'Neill in the summer, no doubt about that. Who should we get instead? Not sure, he'll be better than Rafa though.
                        That would be the O'Neill whose team just lost at home to Man City?

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by Reece View Post
                          That would be the O'Neill whose team just lost at home to Man City?
                          The same City team that has won two away games in 2006
                          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                            #88
                            The same City team who we beat at the weekend?

                            Who was this Speedy fella on KT?

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                              #89
                              Love the debate, really, but our home form is despite this, excellent. Our away form is letting us down, it did also in Rafa´s first season and he sorted it out, he will sort it again. The players are not on the ptich though mentally IMO, could be hard to sort.
                              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                                #90
                                The only thing I would question about Rafa sometimes is his substitutions. Why does he take players off when they are clearly playing well? Crouchy, for example. Garcia last night. Ok, I know he missed a few chances, but he was getting through the defence and he then brings on kids when we need to win the game.

                                It almost seems as though he tries to be too clever at times and is thinking too much about keeping players fresh for the next game. Well, to my simple mind, it would seem the first priority is to win the one you're playing, then you can think about the next game.

                                Still think he's the right man for the job though as he does seem to learn from his mistakes.
                                Life is NOT a journey to the grave with the goal of arriving safely in a prettily preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways in a shower of gravel and party shards, thoroughly used, utterly exhausted, and loudly proclaiming: "F*** ME, that was BRILLIANT!"

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