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As the club is an unlisted stock the rules are different. It is quite in order for the shareholders to be informed AFTER it is all agreed. the shareholders then have to vote with their shares whether or not to accept. Given that Moores has 51% - irrelevant.Originally posted by Lecter View PostMaybe I'm wrong on this but the last time we reached a significant stage over investment letters were circulated to the shareholders advising them that this was the case and the club issued a Code 2.10 announcement (which details our shareholding and nominal share price)
The Code 2.10 happens when a buyer puts the company under an offer period (ie advises them that they intend to make a bid for major proportion of the shareholding) they are given a certain amount of time to finalise the bid then
So assuming the above is correct, no letters and no Code 2.10 announcement mean no potential bidIn Rafa I Trust
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I love the way that the NOTW has our debt now at £100m, a big rise on the (also wrong) £80m that's usually bandied about. Fits in nicely alongside the made up quotes as someone pointed out above.
As for that site, they've had someone called "SCKair" helping out Zico on the investment stories. After claiming all week to be well in with the right people in Dubai, he now says, "Agreed, my best guess is, that there is clearly something going on. I hope it's the Dubai investors but even if it's not I'm certain that Moores will have gone with the best deal possible for the club and the board. I'm going to wait 'til the Sunday papers turn up, if there is going to be any news it's early enough for them to cover it!". He joined in September and has now posted 44 times.
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Originally posted by LFClove View PostNo one really knows what they will do.
If Dubai holdings have bought the club then they could spend the same amount of money as Chelsea or even more if they want to do it.
The Sheikh is richer than Roman.
Look at the title of the group. It's an investment company. They don't exist to throw money away, their ONLY reason for existing is to turn a profit on every investement they are involved in.
They are not going to throw their money around willy nilly for two reasons, one because they'll use the club as a vehicle for generating more revenue so it will fund itself and give them a healthy return on investment. The stadium being the first and most obvious avenue of helping that happen. The second thing that will inhibit them is the structure of LFC itself, if they owned 100% of the club they could throw money around as they please, but since they will only own 51% of the club, any money they wish to put into the club will have to be done in the form of buying unissued shares. This will result in the dilution of other shareholders ownership of the club, something which none of them will be pleased about.
We have to get away from this notion that anyone taking over the club is going to pour money in to an unlimited transfer kitty, it's not going to happen. We may get an initial big signing to help smooth the transition for new majority shareholders but after that they'll only spend what the club as a business can afford to spend. Unless our revenues are raised significantly that will remain at roughly the same level as it is now.
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Whoever takes us over is only gonna do it for a profit so we need to think about who would be best for us, ideally someone with a sporting background. The Arabs have that with Godolphin and the yank chap has it with his basketball or Ice hockey or whatever. I think they are both much of a muchness so Im gonna plump for the Arabs.Bill Oddie, Bill Oddie, put your hands all over my body.
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Originally posted by LFClove View PostWe are not on the stock market.
Doesnt matter
We are a PLC many of the rules and regultions that govern LSE listed companies apply to ourselves
Why did we issue a Rule 2.10 annoucement back on the 5th of December 2004 if we didnt have to?Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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That Moores... ever the jokerOriginally posted by Lecter View PostDoesnt matter
We are a PLC many of the rules and regultions that govern LSE listed companies apply to ourselves
Why did we issue a Rule 2.10 annoucement back on the 5th of December 2004 if we didnt have to?
have to say that the BBC have been very vocal about this takeover. Twice mentioned on Match of the Day. Was mentioned on the website and on the radio too. Seems a deal is not far off at all.
L4 all the way."What's your favourite Beatles album then?"
"I think I'd have to say....Best of the Beatles"
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Originally posted by LFClove View PostWe are not on the stock market.Thats incorrect sorryOriginally posted by LFClove View PostNot before a deal is done. If you are on the stock market then you must tell the rest of the shareholders and stock market that someone is interested.
Moores doesn't need to tell anyone before a deal is agreed.
Why if this was the case did letters go out to the shareholders and we issue a Code 2.10 announcement back in 2004 - there wasnt a deal agreed thenBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Then why go through the rigamarole of informing shareholders of advanced talks and issue a Code 2.10 back in 2004 if it wasnt necessary?Originally posted by DeeGame View PostAs the club is an unlisted stock the rules are different. It is quite in order for the shareholders to be informed AFTER it is all agreed. the shareholders then have to vote with their shares whether or not to accept. Given that Moores has 51% - irrelevant.
Moores selling his stake gives anybody purchasing them controlling interest
When someone purchases a 30% stakeholding they are oblidged to bid for the remaining shares (at the same level they bought the 30% or higher) its then upto the individual shareholder to do what they want (there wont be any ballot of the shareholders)
When the buyer reaches 90% he can compulsory purchase the remaining shares
Despite the fact we arent listed we are still bound by the rules and regulations of a PLC and many of the rules of the Takeover and Mergers commissionBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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LOLOriginally posted by kopdan View PostThat Moores... ever the joker
have to say that the BBC have been very vocal about this takeover. Twice mentioned on Match of the Day. Was mentioned on the website and on the radio too. Seems a deal is not far off at all.
L4 all the way.
Theres lots of talk but until we issue a Code 2.10 announcement I'm filing it alongside the other 50,000 articles that have been written about investment over the last few years
Anyway how are you?Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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I'll drop you an email.Originally posted by Lecter View PostLOL
Theres lots of talk but until we issue a Code 2.10 announcement I'm filing it alongside the other 50,000 articles that have been written about investment over the last few years
Anyway how are you?"What's your favourite Beatles album then?"
"I think I'd have to say....Best of the Beatles"
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They looked at our books and that is why a 2.10 was announced back then.Originally posted by Lecter View PostThats incorrect sorry
Why if this was the case did letters go out to the shareholders and we issue a Code 2.10 announcement back in 2004 - there wasnt a deal agreed then
Moores could have agreed a deal with someone and then they could look at our books. Morgan did that and then took back his offer after he looked at our books. If a deal is agreed and they now is looking at our books then a 2.10 announcement should be seen on the takeover panel on Monday morning.
I don't know if a 2.10 was announced when Morgan almost bought Moores shares.Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
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