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    #61
    Semantics
    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
    (1995)
    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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      #62
      You do like to argue don't you. I've lost interest. Whatever makes you happy DJS.

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        #63
        Originally posted by DJS View Post
        If a bid came in for Alonso of say £20m, and 3 quarters of the cash was then used to sign Tim Cahill, would you be happy with that?
        No deal ...... next question
        In Rafa I Trust

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          #64
          I wouldn't be happy to sell Alonso for 20 million and I wouldn't be happy to buy Cahill for 15 million.
          Originally posted by Gordon Brown
          (1995)
          "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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            #65
            Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
            You do like to argue don't you. I've lost interest. Whatever makes you happy DJS.
            No offence mate, but i'm not surprised you've lost interest after that last comment i made. I DID say that, and then you comment 'if youd said...'...

            I kinda invalidated your comment, so i kinda expected that you might've lost interest at that point

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              #66
              Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
              You do like to argue don't you. I've lost interest. Whatever makes you happy DJS.
              He is quite argumentative isnt he
              "With Ron Yeats in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal."

              Bill Shankly

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                #67
                Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                I wouldn't be happy to sell Alonso for 20 million and I wouldn't be happy to buy Cahill for 15 million.
                Taking the cash to one side, would you accept replacing Alonso with a cahill-type of midfielder?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by DJS View Post
                  Sure, but obviously the more critical issue for us is whether we can incorporate him into our system and utilise him fully, isnt it?

                  Since it's what i said, why did you earler post "If you'd said...." ?

                  Seeing as i DID say, then i dont see what reason you had to post that 'if you said' comment earlier
                  Well the way you phrase it and try to start a debate makes a massive difference. If you ask people a simple question then you're going to get most sane people come out with variations on the same simple answer. In this case - **** no.

                  Best way to start a debate on something is to post your views, rather than some ridiculous hypothetical. I find it very strange that you chose to do it this way despite you saying you predicted the response.
                  Like blood on iron

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by DJS View Post
                    Taking the cash to one side, would you accept replacing Alonso with a cahill-type of midfielder?
                    No. Alonso is a great player but he heas to be used in the right system. We have Gerrard to get forward and his is 50 times the player Cahill could ever dream of being.
                    The simple answer is we should have been playing 3-5-2 long before today. Maybe if we'd got Alves we might have been playing that system.
                    Originally posted by Gordon Brown
                    (1995)
                    "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by DJS View Post
                      No offence mate, but i'm not surprised you've lost interest after that last comment i made. I DID say that, and then you comment 'if youd said...'...

                      I kinda invalidated your comment, so i kinda expected that you might've lost interest at that point
                      Not really. Its just that I'd rather watch football than argue with you over what is just a matter of semantics on a hypothetical subject. Knowing Cahill as I do (through his agent) he'd rather pull his teeth out than sign for us.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by DJS View Post
                        Taking the cash to one side, would you accept replacing Alonso with a cahill-type of midfielder?
                        I wouldnt replace alonso with anyone. Hes the best passer in world football, and also has probably the sharpest footballing mind too. Cahill just runs his bollocks off.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Red_Polo View Post
                          Well the way you phrase it and try to start a debate makes a massive difference. If you ask people a simple question then you're going to get most sane people come out with variations on the same simple answer. In this case - **** no.

                          Best way to start a debate on something is to post your views, rather than some ridiculous hypothetical. I find it very strange that you chose to do it this way despite you saying you predicted the response.
                          TBH mate, it took a while after posting it, for me to be in a position to actually compose a post properly, with my own views. Internet usage at work is being clamped down on somewhat, so it makes composing a proper post with any sort of depth or content a bit difficult

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
                            No. Alonso is a great player but he heas to be used in the right system. We have Gerrard to get forward and his is 50 times the player Cahill could ever dream of being.
                            The simple answer is we should have been playing 3-5-2 long before today. Maybe if we'd got Alves we might have been playing that system.
                            That's a fair reply.

                            Basically, it does seem like IF we're playing 4-4-2 and we're playing Gerrard central, Alonso doesnt have enough in his locker to take Momo's place.

                            Obviously with the amount of games we play, you'd have a certain amount of rotation so they'd all get games.

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
                              Not really. Its just that I'd rather watch football than argue with you over what is just a matter of semantics on a hypothetical subject. Knowing Cahill as I do (through his agent) he'd rather pull his teeth out than sign for us.
                              That's fair enough Al.

                              But isnt a rather significant amount of the content on here based on SPECULATION and hypotherticals?

                              I'm not looking for an argument mate, just a polite exchange of opinions.

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
                                I wouldnt replace alonso with anyone. Hes the best passer in world football, and also has probably the sharpest footballing mind too. Cahill just runs his bollocks off.
                                Alonso is terrific at what he does. I wonder if what he does is actually suited to how we play though.

                                As for Cahill, he pops up with quite a good amount of goals, in between the running

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