a few inescapable conclusions

[badpiggy]

1. 4 ****in nil away from home - i will be drinking to that.
2. for thoses who want cisse back - he wouldn't have finished either of bellamy's goals today. neither would he have made the goal for kuyt.
3. bellamy's second touch to set up his second goal was perfect - he's a very talented footballer.
4. that doesn't mean he'll go on to fulfill his potential.
5. hyypia had a very poor game - he looked tired, old and frustrated when he came off. his day is nearly done. he is a legend.
6. carra had a mighty game. his confidence is returning.
7. reina is a great reflex shot-stopper and a commanding keeper when his destiny is in his own hands. but he's a flapper for crosses and nervous, confused and indecisive defending make him nervous, confused and indecisive. probably age related.
8. this is the first time in ages i've had a chance to get a good look at pennant and i've been suspicious about all the negative posts but i was close to being disgusted with what i saw of him today. this was a game when someone of his supposed abilities could come in and really kick the opposition when they're down. what bothered me wasn't so much his lack of effect but a very obvious wrong attitude. it's either "liverpool paid £7 million for me and i'm playing most games so i've arrived" or "liverpool have paid £7 million for me and i keep ****ing it up but i'll wait for something to change rather than ACTUALLY WORKING". he really looked like he didn't give a **** today. maybe he just has an easily misread blank expression...
9. wigan were absolutely awful and a better team would have killed us at 0-1 and 0-2 with the opportunities they were gifted. see point 1.
10. a good right winger would have skinned agger loads. he still looks class though.
11. xabi worked his nads off but something from his sublime passing game has been lost due to his defensive workload even when momo's playing.
12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder
13. sometimes it takes a game like this to turn things around - we really don't deserve to beat anyone by 4 to nothing at the moment but luck is the component no one can be without. today's luck was wigan playing their worst defensive game of the season. see point 1.

[Rocket]

i agree, i'm a huge bellamy fan, not sure if he's going to be what we need, but i don't think he's exactly been given enough time to prove himself with injuires, court cases, poor overall team performances.

cisse was slagged off from the start, but at least people had 2 years to come to a better conclusion

decent post, any chance you can put more paragraphs in future

[Red_Al_77]

1. 4 ****in nil away from home - i will be drinking to that.
2. for thoses who want cisse back - he wouldn't have finished either of bellamy's goals today. neither would he have made the goal for kuyt.
3. bellamy's second touch to set up his second goal was perfect - he's a very talented footballer.
4. that doesn't mean he'll go on to fulfill his potential.
5. hyypia had a very poor game - he looked tired, old and frustrated when he came off. his day is nearly done. he is a legend.
6. carra had a mighty game. his confidence is returning.
7. reina is a great reflex shot-stopper and a commanding keeper when his destiny is in his own hands. but he's a flapper for crosses and nervous, confused and indecisive defending make him nervous, confused and indecisive. probably age related.
8. this is the first time in ages i've had a chance to get a good look at pennant and i've been suspicious about all the negative posts but i was close to being disgusted with what i saw of him today. this was a game when someone of his supposed abilities could come in and really kick the opposition when they're down. what bothered me wasn't so much his lack of effect but a very obvious wrong attitude. it's either "liverpool paid £7 million for me and i'm playing most games so i've arrived" or "liverpool have paid £7 million for me and i keep ****ing it up but i'll wait for something to change rather than ACTUALLY WORKING". he really looked like he didn't give a **** today. maybe he just has an easily misread blank expression...
9. wigan were absolutely awful and a better team would have killed us at 0-1 and 0-2 with the opportunities they were gifted. see point 1.
10. a good right winger would have skinned agger loads. he still looks class though.
11. xabi worked his nads off but something from his sublime passing game has been lost due to his defensive workload even when momo's playing.
12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder
13. sometimes it takes a game like this to turn things around - we really don't deserve to beat anyone by 4 to nothing at the moment but luck is the component no one can be without. today's luck was wigan playing their worst defensive game of the season. see point 1.

Don't agree with the jist of some of your points but I can see where you are coming from. Wigan weren't that bad as Reina made two excellent stops. Reina is back on form and hasn't flapped for a while. SG is a great central midfielder.

[shadow]

12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder

evidence is building to the contrary

[alunevans]

12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder

but he is though.

[El Diego]

i agree, i'm bellamy , I am sure I'm just what we need, but i don't think I've exactly been given enough time to prove myself with injuires, court cases, poor overall team performances.

cisse is gay so was slagged off from the start, but at least people had 2 years to come to a better conclusion.

decent post, any chance you can put more paragraphs in future

[badpiggy]

12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder

evidence is building to the contrary

i take the point but his greatness will only become obvious when he consistently dictates games against utd, chelsea and arsenal.

[Rocket]

[El Diego]

I have asked this already but didn't see the answer but why is lfclove on your ignore list

[Rocket]

he's a tool and tried to get me banned from KT

[badpiggy]

what is it with people's obsession with the wanking smiley on this site? you'd swear none of you had......ok. i get it now.

:bird:

[doogle]

3. bellamy's second touch to set up his second goal was perfect - he's a very talented footballer.
9. wigan were absolutely awful and a better team would have killed us at 0-1 and 0-2 with the opportunities they were gifted. see point 1.
10. a good right winger would have skinned agger loads. he still looks class though.
12. just because SG had a good game today doesn't mean he's a great central midfielder

where do i start,i'll start at 3,i'm sure bellers never needed a second touch for his second
9. killed us at 0-2? nope
10 would have skinned agger but he's still class? what
12, wtf, what is he then

[shadow]

i take the point but his greatness will only become obvious when he consistently dictates games against utd, chelsea and arsenal.

I'd say he is well on the road to greatness following Istanbul, the FA Cup final, Olympiakos to name perhaps the 3 biggest examples of him not dictating a game, but singlehandedly turning each on its head with sheer brilliance and winning the games

I see your point though

[El Diego]

whats he do to try and get you banned

[Rocket]

I'd say he is well on the road to greatness following Istanbul, the FA Cup final, Olympiakos to name perhaps the 3 biggest examples of him not dictating a game, but singlehandedly turning each on its head with sheer brilliance and winning the games

I see your point though

i can see what he's saying, obviously he's had incredible games in the past, notably the ones you've just mentioned. but in the past he has often been quiet against great midfielders like Keane and Viera in the bigger games.