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    New owners - Is money all that counts?

    As the Sheikh Mohammed bid for LFC gathers momentum so to do the articles in the various media outlets about him.

    As a keen horse racing fan, I knew a fair bit about him, but I have to say not as much as I thought. Through his Goldolphin empire, he always seemed to uphold the traditions of racing. sure he had millions to spend but somehow he always seemed to be an hounourable sort of bloke. however, the more I read about him, the more unsure I am about him. I knew he loved his camel racing but didn't realise he used kids as jockeys, and only stopped this practice after a US lawsuit was issued, accusing the state of the enslavement of 30,000 kids. It was filed by the parents of 6 kids based on international anti slavery and anti child labour laws.

    Then there is the alledged treatment of Asian workers in Dubai. Whilst his thoroughbred horses live a life of luxury, immigrant workers are treated like slaves earning peanuts or face the threat of deportation.

    Also anyone holding an Israeli passport is refused entry to the country.

    Its always difficult to judge who is a fit person to run LFC. Some argue as long as the money there, who cares. All mega rich businessmen will have plenty of unsavouary claims against them. Thats true whatever their nationality. Also we in Britian judge others by our standards, when often different values apply overseas.

    Personally, I do care about the man behind our money, thats why I was so opposed to Shinawatra. i'm not saying I'm against Sheikh Mohammed but I do have concerns. I realise that this is a somewhat idealistic position to hold. To find an investor not only willing & able to pour the cash in to LFC that we need, but also be some sort of paragon of virtue is asking a lot.

    I was originally very happy about the Sheikh but I do have some concerns now but overall unless I read of more unsavoury business practices, I still think he could be the man for LFC.

    Thoughts please.
    AKA Heighway No9

    #2
    Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post
    As the Sheikh Mohammed bid for LFC gathers momentum so to do the articles in the various media outlets about him.

    As a keen horse racing fan, I knew a fair bit about him, but I have to say not as much as I thought. Through his Goldolphin empire, he always seemed to uphold the traditions of racing. sure he had millions to spend but somehow he always seemed to be an hounourable sort of bloke. however, the more I read about him, the more unsure I am about him. I knew he loved his camel racing but didn't realise he used kids as jockeys, and only stopped this practice after a US lawsuit was issued, accusing the state of the enslavement of 30,000 kids. It was filed by the parents of 6 kids based on international anti slavery and anti child labour laws.


    Thoughts please.

    I like this sheikh more and more

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      #3
      Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post
      As the Sheikh Mohammed bid for LFC gathers momentum so to do the articles in the various media outlets about him.

      As a keen horse racing fan, I knew a fair bit about him, but I have to say not as much as I thought. Through his Goldolphin empire, he always seemed to uphold the traditions of racing. sure he had millions to spend but somehow he always seemed to be an hounourable sort of bloke. however, the more I read about him, the more unsure I am about him. I knew he loved his camel racing but didn't realise he used kids as jockeys, and only stopped this practice after a US lawsuit was issued, accusing the state of the enslavement of 30,000 kids. It was filed by the parents of 6 kids based on international anti slavery and anti child labour laws.

      Then there is the alledged treatment of Asian workers in Dubai. Whilst his thoroughbred horses live a life of luxury, immigrant workers are treated like slaves earning peanuts or face the threat of deportation.

      Also anyone holding an Israeli passport is refused entry to the country.

      Its always difficult to judge who is a fit person to run LFC. Some argue as long as the money there, who cares. All mega rich businessmen will have plenty of unsavouary claims against them. Thats true whatever their nationality. Also we in Britian judge others by our standards, when often different values apply overseas.

      Personally, I do care about the man behind our money, thats why I was so opposed to Shinawatra. i'm not saying I'm against Sheikh Mohammed but I do have concerns. I realise that this is a somewhat idealistic position to hold. To find an investor not only willing & able to pour the cash in to LFC that we need, but also be some sort of paragon of virtue is asking a lot.

      I was originally very happy about the Sheikh but I do have some concerns now but overall unless I read of more unsavoury business practices, I still think he could be the man for LFC.

      Thoughts please.
      Every money mogul is tainted with something. We use sponsors who use sweatshops in China etc so it would be a bit strange and hypocritical of us to start getting all righteous now.

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        #4
        Sadly we can't pick and choose our owners, it is out of our hands and the Glazer takeover showed that no matter how much the fans protest, ultimately there is nothing we can do.
        So seeing as we can't choose our owner the next question is, is it a good deal for LFC. The answer has to be a resounding "YES". Debts cleared, stadium built, investment in the team, a man who respects the traditions the club is founded on. What more can we ask?
        This deal seems like a no brainer as far as the "club" is concerned so I'm not going to be up in arms about it happening. The alternative is a far worse situation.
        Originally posted by Gordon Brown
        (1995)
        "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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          #5
          Originally posted by Sir Bob View Post
          As the Sheikh Mohammed bid for LFC gathers momentum so to do the articles in the various media outlets about him.

          As a keen horse racing fan, I knew a fair bit about him, but I have to say not as much as I thought. Through his Goldolphin empire, he always seemed to uphold the traditions of racing. sure he had millions to spend but somehow he always seemed to be an hounourable sort of bloke. however, the more I read about him, the more unsure I am about him. I knew he loved his camel racing but didn't realise he used kids as jockeys, and only stopped this practice after a US lawsuit was issued, accusing the state of the enslavement of 30,000 kids. It was filed by the parents of 6 kids based on international anti slavery and anti child labour laws.

          Then there is the alledged treatment of Asian workers in Dubai. Whilst his thoroughbred horses live a life of luxury, immigrant workers are treated like slaves earning peanuts or face the threat of deportation.

          Also anyone holding an Israeli passport is refused entry to the country.

          Its always difficult to judge who is a fit person to run LFC. Some argue as long as the money there, who cares. All mega rich businessmen will have plenty of unsavouary claims against them. Thats true whatever their nationality. Also we in Britian judge others by our standards, when often different values apply overseas.

          Personally, I do care about the man behind our money, thats why I was so opposed to Shinawatra. i'm not saying I'm against Sheikh Mohammed but I do have concerns. I realise that this is a somewhat idealistic position to hold. To find an investor not only willing & able to pour the cash in to LFC that we need, but also be some sort of paragon of virtue is asking a lot.

          I was originally very happy about the Sheikh but I do have some concerns now but overall unless I read of more unsavoury business practices, I still think he could be the man for LFC.

          Thoughts please.
          You're over-reacting and being a bit too precious. The migrant workers are not rounded up and shipped there and kept in chains; they go willingly and can leave whenever they like. They are well-paid compared with their own countries, pay no taxes and send money home. It's the employers rather than the ruler of Dubai who provides the facilities in any case. He's probably got more on his plate than personall overseeing the fay-to-day running of everything in Dubai. I believe all the kids being used as camel jockeys no longer do so and I read that robots - believe it or not - are now used instead

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            #6
            Originally posted by Redspin View Post
            they go willingly and can leave whenever they like.
            I think after recent reports this week you'll probably find that's not the case. However, while it may seem unethical and unfair to us, it's quite common place over in the east. So while I don't condone those working practices, i'd imagine it's not as if his workers are treated any worse than others in the region,
            Thomas Hicks Senior

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