Originally posted by Neil Young
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I agree. He's right about Fowler though. 
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we'll just have to agree to disgaree - or do you disagree about that aswell?
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No, no, no, I agree to disagree - it is, as you said earlier, a matter of opinion, of course.
You are wrong though.
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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what a ridiculous comment to make. no one can possibly say whether he'd have scored from those same chances.Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
Cisse is not of the same quality as Bellamy, Cisse would have missed Bellamys two goals against Wigan beacause he lakcs finesse, he would have probably blasted the pass Bellamy laid on to Kuyt into the side netting.
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I am going what I have seen previously, not at all ridiculous, based on experience.Originally posted by carheex View Postwhat a ridiculous comment to make. no one can possibly say whether he'd have scored from those same chances.Comment
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Isn't it rather like saying that we'd be winning more matches with Fowler in the starting line-up?Originally posted by carheex View Postwhat a ridiculous comment to make. no one can possibly say whether he'd have scored from those same chances.
Of course that's just my opinion.Last edited by Neil Young; 12-12-06, 07:13 PM..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Why is it bobbins exactly, because your blinded and think Cisse usless? OR because you don't agree. You could make a whole DVD of "Balls Cisse refused to chase and the shots he blasted at the Keeper"Originally posted by carheex View PostComment
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But I never said those words. Anyway, haven't we already agreed that your opinions are "wrong"? ;-)Originally posted by Neil Young View PostComment
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Not only wrong, but fundamentally flawed in all possible ways.Originally posted by carheex View Post
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Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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one reason that it's bobbins is because Cisse would probably have been playing on the right wing. another is because he has never been in that same position bellamy was in, against the same team, against the same keeper, under the same pressure, with the same team mates, on the same pitch under the same weather conditions etc etc all at the same time for you to be able to say whether he'd have missed it or not.Originally posted by Mattshark View PostComment
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In an effort to try and steer this debate somewhere a little more constructive I just want to air an idea I have been having of late:
People always want to look at Gerrards scoring record in different positions to justify him playing in their prefered position for him, however with Cisse people always say he scored loads even though he played on the wing, he would have scored even more if played upfront.
I have a sneaking suspicion that last season we created a lot of chances by having whoever was on the right breaking into the box. It was this the fact that he was coming from deeper and wider that made him more effective and that this season when Stevie has undoubtedly been less dynamic when played on the right and Pennant has shown little inclination to go into the box without first getting to the byline we have missed this facet to last years play. It also fits in with the fact that the PL seems to have a dearth of LBs and so an attacker would be better off facing them than many of the centre backs."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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He'd of been on the right wing because he is a pile of useless lazy junk. I based my assumption on experience, if you think that is wrong, well tough, now you've been talking bobbins all thread, button it.Originally posted by carheex View PostComment
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but you're basing it on "experiences" that have never happened!!!!Originally posted by Mattshark View PostComment
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Bellamy missed an open net from around a yard for us this season, no one knows if Cisse would have scored if he had played.Just believe and you never know what will happen.
According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.
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