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"If you have studied your history, you will know that not only did Liverpool fans nick that song from Celtic"
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Referring to YNWA obviously.
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In England, the song's most famous outing was recorded in the early 1960s by Liverpool Merseybeat group Gerry & the Pacemakers, which reached #1 in the UK charts on the 26th October 1963 where it stayed for 4 weeks. It quickly became the club anthem of Liverpool Football Club [1] and is invariably sung by its supporters moments before the start of the game [2]. The words You'll Never Walk Alone feature in the club crest. In recent years the fans of various other clubs have attempted to claim that they sang it first, but it appears that Liverpool has the much stronger claims [3]. In Scotland the song was later adopted as the anthem of Glasgow football club Celtic F.C.
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Living in an area with a large contingent of Liverpool fans, writes Damian, who lives in Chester should you be wondering, I'm constantly being drawn into debates about who sang You'll Never Walk Alone first. I've failed to come up with evidence to support my belief that it was the Celtic faithful. I'd appreciate any information which serves to conclude this dispute once and for all.
While many Celtic fan-based websites provide the words to You'll Never Walk Alone, and it features on the CD Green & White Anthems, there is no historical evidence that Celtic fans sang it on their terraces first. Instead, a cursory glance back in time shows that Liverpool have the much stronger claims.
After all, the song, originally written by Rodgers and Hammerstein in 1945 for the Broadway musical Carousel, only became a terrace favourite after it was covered by Gerry and the Pacemakers in November 1963. Almost immediately - as footage from Panorama in 1964 shows - Liverpool supporters adopted it.
As Paul Fields points out: "Before the early 60s football fans made noise and occasionally chanted something brief (like Play Up Pompey!) but it was the Kop that started singing popular songs of the day (mainly Merseybeat songs such as Gerry and the Pacemakers' You'll Never Walk Alone) and later started to adapt the lyrics of songs to celebrate the team and its players.
"If any Celtic fans still claim that they sang it first, it would have to predate Gerry's version. Now can you really see thousands of working class Glaswegians in the 50s/early 60s spontaneously joining in a sing-along from a Rodgers and Hammerstein musical?" No, us neither.
The Kop used to sing along with the songs played before the match. They played YNWA a couple of weeks on the trot then when they didnt play it, the Kop sang it themselves so it wasnt 'nicked' from anyone. The rest, as they say, is history.
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mate altough i agree with you on this one, it's ours and we were the first, but wiki is hardly reliable on the subject, most of the stuff on there are written by blokes like us, so if this woulf have been written by a celtic fan it would have sounded a bit different, chances are that it was written by a liverpool fan...
however wiki is always improoving on their reliability, but it still has a long way to go in many aerias.
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"Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
Tupac
mate altough i agree with you on this one, it's ours and we were the first, but wiki is hardly reliable on the subject, most of the stuff on there are written by blokes like us, so if this woulf have been written by a celtic fan it would have sounded a bit different, chances are that it was written by a liverpool fan...
however wiki is always improoving on their reliability, but it still has a long way to go in many aerias.
I didn't claim wikipedia to be a reliable source, far from it, but the claims are all referenced and from that you can make your own mind up.
Originally posted by Gordon Brown
(1995)
"A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"
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