Roberto Firmino

[Daniel 7]

Sticking it in a bit or the full length? Which is more rapey?

[Bloodraven]

Sticking it in a bit or the full length? Which is more rapey?

That makes no sense whatsoever

[Daniel 7]

I know

[calvoboy]

I think a lot of people (too many) still drink (and/or take drugs) and drive. The law should change - zero limit.

A zero limit is impractical and unnecessary. The law as it stands is about right IMO.

No excuses for being over, though I would argue that the context does matter in terms of severity. There is a world of difference (in terms of your threat to others) between being slightly over the limit and being paralytic, as the law recognises in its severity of sentencing.

[Daniel 7]

A zero limit is impractical and unnecessary. The law as it stands is about right IMO.

No excuses for being over, though I would argue that the context does matter in terms of severity. There is a world of difference (in terms of your threat to others) between being slightly over the limit and being paralytic, as the law recognises in its severity of sentencing.

Its zero in Scotland nowadays.

[calvoboy]

Its zero in Scotland nowadays.

Nope - it's something like 25 micrograms per 100ml or something, which means you can't have a standard measure drink and then drive, but you're still allowed some alcohol in your system.

A zero limit is impractical as there are lots of legitimate ways in which people can take in a small amount of alcohol. Even the Scottish limit has been challenged as being excessively harsh due to the combination of those being unwittingly caught slightly over and the minimum sentencing guidelines (e.g. 2 pints the night before and you're banned for a year - 6 pints the same day and you're also banned for a year)

Anyway, a bit of a digression. Firmino has been a **** by the sounds of it. We'll find out how much of a **** in due course.

[RedReet]

Apologies for being a bit curt. The conversation just irked me a bit. No offence meant.



Just don't drink and drive, kids.

None taken.

2 drinks is poor judgement, any more is poor character. Until we know the facts I think it's a bit harsh to jump to any conclusions. If it transpires that he has had quite a few then I fully agree with every comment made about him, but I don't agree over the limit always means complete scumbag.

[RichC]

I'm sure nobody passing comment on here has had a skinful the night before and jumped in the car at 7 am in the morning.

[BobTheCharmer]

I'm sure nobody passing comment on here has had a skinful the night before and jumped in the car at 7 am in the morning.

I have, plenty of times in the past.

[Kenneth]

I haven't.

[ChesterDave]

I think people would be a little more sympathetic if he had got in the car and been over the limit the next morning. He didn't though..

[BobTheCharmer]

Yeah he's in the wrong. There is a difference though to getting in a car having had a skinful and taking out a wall ala Tony Adams and having two glasses of wine. But I don't know what he has or hasn't done. I've driven in the past to get to work in the morning knowing I was over but I had to get to work, he has enough money to get a taxi. He had options. ****ing stupid. I think klopp will go mental.

[Norbs]

I think people would be a little more sympathetic if he had got in the car and been over the limit the next morning. He didn't though..

Has that been established?

If he was borderline then the police would've probably advised him to refuse a roadside test and take one back at the station to give him a chance to dip back under the limit. If he failed a second test back at the station then chances are he wasn't borderline when initially stopped

[Exiled_red]

Nope - it's something like 25 micrograms per 100ml or something, which means you can't have a standard measure drink and then drive, but you're still allowed some alcohol in your system.

A zero limit is impractical as there are lots of legitimate ways in which people can take in a small amount of alcohol. Even the Scottish limit has been challenged as being excessively harsh due to the combination of those being unwittingly caught slightly over and the minimum sentencing guidelines (e.g. 2 pints the night before and you're banned for a year - 6 pints the same day and you're also banned for a year)

Anyway, a bit of a digression. Firmino has been a **** by the sounds of it. We'll find out how much of a **** in due course.

There is no excuse for drink driving now but the legal limit IMO has to be above zero but below one drink for practical reasons.

Firmino has been an stupid for doing this.

[RichC]

I think people would be a little more sympathetic if he had got in the car and been over the limit the next morning. He didn't though..

Why though? Over the limit is over the limit and should be treated as such, saying well it's the next morning so it doesn't count doesn't wash.

Unless of course it suits your own situation I guess