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  • Chris
    Typing Tourettes is a thing
    • Jul 2006
    • 20697

    #4876
    He's had a poor start to the season. Didn't do enough in the transfer window and now persisting with players that don't deserve his trust and making subs way too late. The treatment of Chamberlain is strange, getting barely anything while Wijnaldum is allowed to just stand around for 90mins every week. Ox showed more desire in his cameo for that header than Gini has away from home all season. Trent was excellent in Moscow, we were going to have loads of the ball so we put a centre back out there? Is he injured?

    We are going to have to muddle through till January as the only way some of these problems can be fixed is the transfer market. Can't wait for the feb 1st excuses of "it's impossible to buy in January".

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    • kemm1
      Dalglish
      • Dec 2006
      • 3418

      #4877
      Originally posted by Kenneth
      'The problem' doesn't exist. We have numerous.
      Agreed but in order or priority I see the spine as number 1.

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      • labourRed
        Paisley
        • Jun 2015
        • 13452

        #4878
        Originally posted by kemm1
        Agreed but in order or priority I see the spine as number 1.
        But that's about three or four players, not exactly an easy fix.

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        • danperkins
          Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
          • May 2010
          • 50408

          #4879
          Originally posted by kemm1
          Klopp is not the problem.
          I like Klopp but how exactly do you figure that? He is the manager no? Buys the players needed to improve the team no? Picks the team ? Make a in game decisions? He absolutely is part of the problem as he the manager... like every other manager it is his job to sort this **** out.

          Look you can say we make individual mistakes leading to goals and that is true but we knew we had massive defensive issues and didn't address them. You can say we miss chances but we knew we didn't have a clinical striker fit at the club to finish teams off. The midfield gets cuts to ribbons as we well knew .. the balance is all wrong and we have nobody in there to protect the defence. All these things everyone has been mentioning all last season and yet they are still happening.

          Team and manager are the problem at the moment but it is the managers job to sort this out.

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          • Bender
            Hodgsoned
            • Jul 2006
            • 37671

            #4880
            Originally posted by kemm1
            Klopp is not the problem.

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            • danperkins
              Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
              • May 2010
              • 50408

              #4881
              Originally posted by Chris
              He's had a poor start to the season. Didn't do enough in the transfer window and now persisting with players that don't deserve his trust and making subs way too late. The treatment of Chamberlain is strange, getting barely anything while Wijnaldum is allowed to just stand around for 90mins every week. Ox showed more desire in his cameo for that header than Gini has away from home all season. Trent was excellent in Moscow, we were going to have loads of the ball so we put a centre back out there? Is he injured?

              We are going to have to muddle through till January as the only way some of these problems can be fixed is the transfer market. Can't wait for the feb 1st excuses of "it's impossible to buy in January".
              absolutely spot on

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              • Liverpool
                Paisley
                • Jul 2006
                • 16915

                #4882
                klopp having two assistants who he trusts so vehemently, I'd have expected them to snap him out of some of his mistakes and bring new ideas/solutions to the table . **** all sign of it. Feels a bit Pascoe/Marsh like.

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                • Kenneth
                  Pond Scum
                  • May 2007
                  • 65633

                  #4883
                  Originally posted by Chris
                  He's had a poor start to the season. Didn't do enough in the transfer window and now persisting with players that don't deserve his trust and making subs way too late. The treatment of Chamberlain is strange, getting barely anything while Wijnaldum is allowed to just stand around for 90mins every week. Ox showed more desire in his cameo for that header than Gini has away from home all season. Trent was excellent in Moscow, we were going to have loads of the ball so we put a centre back out there? Is he injured?

                  We are going to have to muddle through till January as the only way some of these problems can be fixed is the transfer market. Can't wait for the feb 1st excuses of "it's impossible to buy in January".

                  It was the excuse last Jan when we needed reinforcements for a league challenge, can't see why it will be different this Jan.
                  Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                  • danperkins
                    Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                    • May 2010
                    • 50408

                    #4884
                    I feel like I have to keep saying I like Klopp before I criticise him for fear of a backlash on here but he is massively under performing. He royally ****ed up in the market and needs to pull this team our of this slump. I genuinely don't know if we have the personnel or the character to achieve anything this season.

                    Just to reiterate again I'm am not saying sack him..merely saying he has been **** in the window and **** this season and needs to be better.

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                    • Chris
                      Typing Tourettes is a thing
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 20697

                      #4885
                      Originally posted by Kenneth
                      It was the excuse last Jan when we needed reinforcements for a league challenge, can't see why it will be different this Jan.
                      We seem fiercely against doing anything in January windows nowadays, not sure why as it's yielded some great stuff for us in the past 11 years or so allbeit under different managers.

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                      • cream
                        Paisley
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 12054

                        #4886
                        Originally posted by Chris
                        We seem fiercely against doing anything in January windows nowadays, not sure why as it's yielded some great stuff for us in the past 11 years or so allbeit under different managers.
                        Coutinho
                        Suarez
                        Sturridge
                        Masher
                        Agger




                        Andy Carroll

                        Not bad for a 'difficult' window to sign players.
                        Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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                        • spud_gun
                          Paisley
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 26519

                          #4887
                          Originally posted by danperkins
                          You really think so? I don't think any manager is untouchable.
                          This season Klopp is.

                          Of today's starting XI the following weren't signed by Klopp
                          .
                          Mingolet, Gomez, Moreno, Lovren, Henderson, Couthino, Sturridge

                          Given his record and how this team plays when everything clicks I'm happy to give him this season and next to get his own players in and get us playing exactly how he wants.

                          Because if he gets it right we'll win the league irrespective how many billion Citeh spend.

                          Keita next season is just the start

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                          • Irishnev
                            Paisley
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 18291

                            #4888
                            [ame="https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/914556038547935232"]https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/914556038547935232[/ame]

                            Tell them to stop reading the media or maybe play better. Weird thing to say.

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                            • danperkins
                              Martin Skrtel can win a game of Connect Four in three moves
                              • May 2010
                              • 50408

                              #4889
                              Originally posted by spud_gun
                              This season Klopp is.

                              Of today's starting XI the following weren't signed by Klopp
                              .
                              Mingolet, Gomez, Moreno, Lovren, Henderson, Couthino, Sturridge

                              Given his record and how this team plays when everything clicks I'm happy to give him this season and next to get his own players in and get us playing exactly how he wants.

                              Because if he gets it right we'll win the league irrespective how many billion Citeh spend.

                              Keita next season is just the start
                              We won't be winning the league anytime soon, nor do I expect us to. Consistent champs league qualification with the odd chance of domestic cup success if about as good as it gets for us. Keita next season yes, but your forgetting we are losing a worldie in Coutinho.

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                              • Buzzo
                                Donald Buzzworth
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 67435

                                #4890
                                Originally posted by spud_gun
                                This season Klopp is.

                                Of today's starting XI the following weren't signed by Klopp
                                .
                                Mingolet, Gomez, Moreno, Lovren, Henderson, Couthino, Sturridge

                                Given his record and how this team plays when everything clicks I'm happy to give him this season and next to get his own players in and get us playing exactly how he wants.

                                Because if he gets it right we'll win the league irrespective how many billion Citeh spend.

                                Keita next season is just the start


                                Common sense

                                This is a tough period, but do we want to be a club who puts a clearly talented manager under unnecessary pressure when things aren't quite working? It's not like we are losing heavily every game. We just aren't quite at our best level.

                                He's class and he deserves time to get it right.
                                Modifying post.

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