Jürgen Klopp

[ronanm]

Good time to have an international break for him. A loss on Saturday and the pressure resumes.

[Liverpool]

What is it then?

load of **** as is all the brendan points comparisons, the progress has been nonlinear under klopp, we are in a down point at the minute but generally going in the right direction.

[dom9]

load of **** as is all the brendan points comparisons, the progress has been nonlinear under klopp, we are in a down point at the minute but generally going in the right direction.

Exactly.

[Fosterbloke]

This is like the cold snap climate deniers like to highlight as evidence that a global warming trend isn't happening right now.

[dom9]

OK...

[labourRed]

load of **** as is all the brendan points comparisons, the progress has been nonlinear under klopp, we are in a down point at the minute but generally going in the right direction.

Only the lovely warmth of smug hindsight will tell us if we're going in the right general direction (at this moment). I have that feeling also FWIW, but i also feel there's a fair bit more rebuilding to do before we're on anything that resembles real progress again (and that, to be honest, has nothing to do with the manager).

And I measure progress in terms of being competitive for trophies and we're going to be a fair bit shy of that for a few years IMO.

[BobTheCharmer]

I don't think klopp is doing a bad job. I just think he could be doing better considering we have players of the calibre of Coutinho and Mane. If he would be prepared to sacrifice his gung-ho attacking style for a little defensive organisation I think it would serve us well. Alternatively we could be no better off at all. Just duller to watch.

[baitman]

its no good having the best attacking flair players in the league and playing gung-ho football when we concede a goal from almost every attack or corner.

if a manager cant sort out a defence then no matter how nice we attack we will win **** all.

[Fredo]

its no good having the best attacking flair players in the league and playing gung-ho football when we concede a goal from almost every attack or corner.

if a manager cant sort out a defence then no matter how nice we attack we will win **** all.

Define 'sorting it out'. Don't you think it's an evolutionary process rather than a defined endpoint? I mean, some managers start their building phase by focusing on the playing side of things; they define a template of how we should play offensively and achieve it in a couple of years. Others start from the back but ultimately the process is the same, i.e to achieve a balance which will at some point win us things, hopefully.

Getting impatient when that process hasn't been completed is ridiculous IMO. It's frustrating, but it doesn't make any sense.

[Daniel 7]

Define 'sorting it out'. Don't you think it's an evolutionary process rather than a defined endpoint? I mean, some managers start their building phase by focusing on the playing side of things; they define a template of how we should play offensively and achieve it in a couple of years. Others start from the back but ultimately the process is the same, i.e to achieve a balance which will at some point win us things, hopefully.

Getting impatient when that process hasn't been completed is ridiculous IMO. It's frustrating, but it doesn't make any sense.

The process hasn't really been changed, so getting frustrated with what was happening before and during Klopp is perfectly understandable

[Kenneth]

Define 'sorting it out'. Don't you think it's an evolutionary process rather than a defined endpoint? I mean, some managers start their building phase by focusing on the playing side of things; they define a template of how we should play offensively and achieve it in a couple of years. Others start from the back but ultimately the process is the same, i.e to achieve a balance which will at some point win us things, hopefully.

Getting impatient when that process hasn't been completed is ridiculous IMO. It's frustrating, but it doesn't make any sense.

Can we reverse the process of how we attack by 10 months as we seemed better then?

And no manager has ever thought 'screw the defence, I'm going to spend two years working exclusively on attacking play' . The idea is pie in the sky, they're not even separate things.

[Rich]

I'm 40 years old and the guy is my hero.

He can stay at LFC as long as he wants.

[Fan65]

I'm 40 years old and the guy is my hero.

He can stay at LFC as long as he wants.

He’s the epitome of what a Liverpool manager should be.

[Roboklopp]

Aye, he’s ace & defo wouldn’t be swapping him for anyone. Don’t mean you can’t get frustrated with him tho- kinda like your misssus.

[Charly]

I'm 40 years old and the guy is my hero.

He can stay at LFC as long as he wants.

Well... Id give him another couple of years at least.

Nobody Id rather have right now.

He ****ed up not getting a centreback or two, but all managers will make mistakes. We just need a bit of patience