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  • cream
    Paisley
    • Mar 2009
    • 12054

    #2926
    Allen should have started in midfield and Milner on the right of the three.
    Brandt - Keita - Van Dijk - Sessegnon

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    • Gibbo
      Like a boss
      • Jul 2010
      • 26212

      #2927
      I think Klopp made the right choice leaving Phil on, I think out of him and Firmino he was the more likely of the two to produce something magic.

      I think his main mistake was not bringing Allen on straight after we conceded the second goal, sure we needed a goal but we needed to get some players into midfield, bringing Origi on sort of gave us two isolated figures instead of one.

      Lallana was the best out of the three behind Sturridge tonight, getting some pelters but probably tried the hardest in the entire team after Kolo, I've got time for that.

      Thought Milner grafted but struggled, he's better out wide, and Can benefits from having Allen next to him.

      I hate to be a bit of a damp squib but I hope our transfers over the course of the summer are of a bit of a more marquee standard than what we have seen so far, we've made some smart buys but now have two more backup CM's when we need a first team one, and a centre back that according to people who watch him more than me is more a replacement for Skrtel than first team star.

      New keeper, new left back, both ideally would be proven and no unknowns.

      It's a ****ing massive job really, and Jurgen has just been polishing a turd for most of his time here so far, he's sprinkled some glitter on but there is still **** everywhere.
      The times they are a changin'.

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      • BobTheCharmer
        Pantomime Villain
        • Jul 2006
        • 19183

        #2928
        Originally posted by cream
        Allen should have started in midfield and Milner on the right of the three.


        We couldn't get a grip of the game from the off. Woeful.
        Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won

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        • Glenn Hysen
          Fagan
          • Aug 2006
          • 1448

          #2929
          He got us to the final with the squad he inherited. Next season will be interesting.
          "Justice has been done."

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          • Fosterbloke
            Run the Jewels
            • Dec 2009
            • 39095

            #2930
            Originally posted by Glenn Hysen
            He got us to the final with the squad he inherited. Next season will be interesting.

            Yeah I try to remember that these aren't his players and so a few won't suit his style or mentality.

            Can't wait to see the 2017 LFC team!
            Was mu

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            • Muddled
              Meat Shield
              • Jul 2010
              • 25665

              #2931
              Originally posted by Glenn Hysen
              He got us to the final with the squad he inherited. Next season will be interesting.
              Which is certainly an achievement in itself.

              However, you have to question the impact of not being able to offer European football to potential new players this summer. Especially no Champions League which is what a number of top class players see as their minimum. We have to hope that a number of players can buy-in to Klopp's vision and he holds enough pull on his name alone.

              Yesterday was the opportunity to jump ahead of schedule in our development but I can see next year being another one of transition.

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              • Buzzo
                Donald Buzzworth
                • Jun 2010
                • 67435

                #2932
                We were out foxed tactically in the second half, and Jurgen didn't have the answers for once. We've rode our luck to an extent in the Europa and last night was perhaps a game too far.

                We had it though, and if we could have kept it tight for 10 mins after half time it might have been interesting. I am sure Jurgen has learnt a lot about the mentality of the players in the squad and it is going to be interesting to see who comes in, but also who stays and who goes.
                Modifying post.

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                • Tribute
                  Paisley
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 10150

                  #2933
                  Fine margins isn't it.

                  Benitez managed to deliver an amazing, miraculous win in Istanbul with an inherited squad containing the likes of Traore, Biscan and Josemi. Klopp was 45 mins away from doing similar with a similarly mediocre bunch, inherited from Brendan.

                  Just wasn't to be last night. Doesn't mean it won't happen under Klopp though...

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                  • Kenneth
                    Pond Scum
                    • May 2007
                    • 65633

                    #2934
                    The game was more honest in 2005. Klopp would have thrived 10-20 years ago.
                    Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                    • G
                      Paisley
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 16686

                      #2935
                      Hindsight and all but we were over run in midfield from the start of the second half and his changes didn't help us or come early enough to help us. 4 attackers and only two in midfield killed us but then once you concede you have the difficult choice of leaving the attackers on to try get in front again or take some off and shore it up.

                      He's done great this season and even the league would look miles better if it wasn't for the capitulations in 3 games while 2 nil up. He has his work cut out in the summer but no doubt we'll be regulars at the business end of tournaments under Klopp.

                      His record in finals is worrying though.

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                      • The Birdman
                        Dalglish
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3690

                        #2936
                        Klopp has tried to instill a high energy pressing game playing 3 games a week with technical players inherited from Rodgers who aren't suited to that style.

                        Next season, by the time he has added 3 or 4 more mobile, athletic, powerful players and we're only playing once a week he'll get us top 4 minimum.
                        The King was back for a short while. Long live The King.

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                        • Muddled
                          Meat Shield
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 25665

                          #2937
                          Originally posted by G
                          His record in finals is worrying though.
                          It's an interesting point.

                          Do we think Klopp's motivational methods and preparation may have them mentally shattered before kick off? I'm sure I read somewhere of Gerrard being too fired up for a game and the negative energy caused him to become exhausted. Then for the 2006 FA Cup Final - as a more experienced pro - he was more relaxed and lasted longer.

                          Or we could just be a team of weak minded bottlers.

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                          • redmike65
                            Shankly
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 7114

                            #2938
                            He simply set the team up incorrectly and left to far too long to change it. 4-2-4 is madness - when Rodgers used it in the nearly season the games were often chaotic - fine if you win not if you lose. They were running about like mad things and couldn't react with any calm cohesion when the tide turned.

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                            • The_weatherman
                              Smug
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 14177

                              #2939
                              Originally posted by redmike65
                              He simply set the team up incorrectly and left to far too long to change it. 4-2-4 is madness - when Rodgers used it in the nearly season the games were often chaotic - fine if you win not if you lose. They were running about like mad things and couldn't react with any calm cohesion when the tide turned.
                              I think it could have worked with someone like Lucas alongside Can, Milner isn't what we need centrally, neither are Allen or Henderson TBH. In fact with the benefit of hindsight, maybe something lie, Can - Allen/Lucas in midfield and Firmino - Lallana - Milner behind Sturridge.

                              I know we can't drop Coutinho, but this would make up for Sturridge's lack of pressing.
                              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                              • redmike65
                                Shankly
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 7114

                                #2940
                                Well I love the diamond and next season if we had something like

                                Clyne-Lovren-Matip-Hector
                                -----------Can
                                ------Milner--Zielinski
                                ---------No 10 (take your pick)
                                ---Sturridge--Origi

                                or

                                Clyne-Lovren-Matip-Hector
                                -----------Can
                                ------Milner--Zielinski
                                Three-Forwards--Here

                                Can would be the stopper, Zielinski the playmaker and Milner the runner (think Lucas, Allen and Hendo v Spurs 5-0 game)

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