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  • The_weatherman
    Smug
    • Nov 2006
    • 14177

    #2941
    Should we sell one or two of Firmino, Coutinho and Lallana? We have to many no. 10's of similar level.
    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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    • redmike65
      Shankly
      • Apr 2015
      • 7114

      #2942
      This is almost a heresy but a bit of me wonders about Klopp's view of Coutinho and not just because of his no show last night. Of the three in behind he is the least hard working off the ball while he probably has the greatest "wastage" but in fairness to him that's probably as he is the one trying to create a shooting position out of nothing when there is nothing really on.

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      • G
        Paisley
        • Aug 2006
        • 16686

        #2943
        Originally posted by Muddled
        It's an interesting point.

        Do we think Klopp's motivational methods and preparation may have them mentally shattered before kick off? I'm sure I read somewhere of Gerrard being too fired up for a game and the negative energy caused him to become exhausted. Then for the 2006 FA Cup Final - as a more experienced pro - he was more relaxed and lasted longer.

        Or we could just be a team of weak minded bottlers.
        Could blame the owners too, the only games they bother with are finals and we've lost 3 of the 4 they've attended

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        • The_weatherman
          Smug
          • Nov 2006
          • 14177

          #2944
          I would have liked to see more progression from him over the years, don't feel he's adding enough strings to his bow.
          * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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          • EwarWoo
            Paisley
            • Apr 2007
            • 15979

            #2945
            Coutinho is one of those players. When he's on song he's majestic. But too often he's not.

            It makes it hard, just as you start to write him of majesty returns, you get excited, then bang average again.

            Dunno how I'd feel if he left tbh.

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            • Tribute
              Paisley
              • Dec 2009
              • 10150

              #2946
              The frustration with Coutinho is a bit reminiscent of Luis Garcia. Can be a wonderful player or score worldies one minute and then pure frustration and sloppy in possession the next. It's fine having one or two more creative players like that ...but last night we had several more...

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              • Phoenix07
                The Normal One
                • Sep 2008
                • 10405

                #2947
                Originally posted by Tribute
                The frustration with Coutinho is a bit reminiscent of Luis Garcia. Can be a wonderful player or score worldies one minute and then pure frustration and sloppy in possession the next. It's fine having one or two more creative players like that ...but last night we had several more...
                That's exactly how I described him and Firmino last night. They are both like having two Luis Garcia's on the pitch.

                It wouldn't surprise me if only one of them started next season in the first XI. With the number of right and left wingers being linked, it wouldn't surprise me if neither of them started.

                I've tried so hard to see what others claim they see in them, but I don't. I'm not expecting Lallana to start next season anyway, which is why I've not included him here.

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                • peekay
                  Dr.
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 4000

                  #2948
                  Originally posted by The_weatherman
                  I think it could have worked with someone like Lucas alongside Can, Milner isn't what we need centrally, neither are Allen or Henderson TBH. In fact with the benefit of hindsight, maybe something lie, Can - Allen/Lucas in midfield and Firmino - Lallana - Milner behind Sturridge.

                  I know we can't drop Coutinho, but this would make up for Sturridge's lack of pressing.
                  It is difficult to maintain full pressing perfectly every minute of the game.

                  Even with Lucas I think all of our midfielders are better off in a midfield three and will get overrun in a midfield two regularly. It is going to be interesting to see how Klopp develops this team. Right now our favored front 6 is:

                  Sturridge
                  Firmino Coutinho Lallana
                  Can Another CM

                  Sturridge plays his best with a partner to do his running for him. We cannot drop him also as for all his lack of pressing, he provides us with consistent goals and is a game changer.

                  The attacking trio are way too inconsistent to warrant regular starting roles.

                  Our midfield functions best with three players than two.

                  So something will have to give.

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                  • Yozza
                    Paisley
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 10246

                    #2949
                    'Two hours ago you all felt s***!': Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp delivers rousing speech in the wake of Europa League heartbreak

                    Jurgen Klopp delivered a rousing speech to Liverpool's players before leading a rendition of a terrace chant in an attempt to mend their European heartbreak.

                    Liverpool had a party planned at their team hotel for after the Europa League final and Klopp insisted it went ahead following their 3-1 defeat to Sevilla in Basle, given how much effort the squad had put into their season.

                    It was in the early hours when Klopp gathered the playing staff, along with his backroom team, on the dance floor and told them: 'Two hours ago you all felt s***. Now hopefully you all feel better. This is just the start for us. We will play in many more finals.'

                    With that, Klopp then started singing 'We are Liverpool, tra-la-la-la!' and made the room join in before the party resumed.

                    Liverpool returned back to Merseyside to begin their holidays ahead of a summer of sweeping changes.

                    A number of players are expected to leave and perhaps the most high-profile could be Christian Benteke, who is the subject of strong interest from West Ham United.
                    What do you mean it could've been anyone? Name me one person who's got a grudge against penguins

                    Batman

                    F*** off!!!

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                    • Fosterbloke
                      Run the Jewels
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 39095

                      #2950
                      Eat drink and be merry! Now **** off.
                      Was mu

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                      • Shaggy
                        Unidentified Rascal
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 135533

                        #2951


                        Thanks very much for being

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                        • dom9
                          Ant Pisser
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 69011

                          #2952
                          You've put a bit of timber on mate.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                          • Assassin
                            Kloppite
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 25908

                            #2953
                            Uriah Heep?

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                            • Bender
                              Hodgsoned
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 37671

                              #2954
                              Originally posted by Shaggy


                              That's what i love about Klopp...just a normal mofo

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                              • redmike65
                                Shankly
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 7114

                                #2955
                                Originally posted by Assassin
                                Uriah Heep?
                                I thought it was Bob Catley.

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