Jürgen Klopp

[The Birdman]

Milner, Can, Hendo, Coutinho, Firmino, Benteke, Clyne, Lucas ... these are not average players

Neither are Sturridge, Sakho and Moreno. Nor Gomez or Markovic

Rodgers got bogged down and come the end couldn't see the wood for the trees but he left a young, exciting squad.

It only appears lopsided due to injuries and the loans.
As numerous others have previously mentioned Ings and Gomez would have featured heavily and we'd have to presume Markovic would as well.

[peekay]

Interesting. I imagine our high press and field tilt look a little different too, but those are harder to quantify.

If anyone's interested in the Rodgers/Klopp statistical schism, this table at Objective Football has shot stats broken down by manager. Most numbers are improved under Klopp, naturally, but only marginally and not showing anything systemically different. Shots against is a little lower, but not much; shots for is up a bit. The big difference is PDO, which is a combination of save percentage and conversion rate. It's usually thought of as a measure of luck, which isn't totally accurate; it's just that its components are very inconsistent and usually regress to the mean. (It is entirely possible to game PDO, and good teams and good managers do so.) Within PDO, the big difference is conversion rate. It went from laughably bad and totally unsustainable under Rodgers (19%, was always going to rise eventually) to quite high under Klopp (37%). Normally I'd expect that to fall, but Klopp has a history of sustaining this sort of overperformance. Part of it probably comes from higher quality chances as a result of being more risky in the final third. Part is probably just the extra 5% or so Klopp usually gets out of his players.

I also did a quick calculation of Team Rating, which is a metric built on shot ratios intended to be a holistic indicator of performance, and which is roughly as predictive as xG models - I have us rising from fifth in the league under BR to third under Klopp, behind City and Arsenal.

Just confirmation that we've been a lot better under Klopp, which isn't surprising, and that it looks like we're for real - we have every chance of challenging. The majority of the difference seems to be in doing a better job of getting the goals our performances have deserved - more directness around the box certainly plays into that - and the encouraging thing is that we still have a lot more room to improve there.

646 posts in 3 years is too low a number for you. Should post more.

[Jaymo]

My only concern about his style of football is how the team is going to fare at Christmas time next season. Obviously, in Germany they have a winter break and that means that the players will still train but won't be playing (they will still play friendlies) competitive games.

The training will be based upon this model I presume, and in England over the Christmas period the club will be playing 3 games in 10 days or something silly. It will be interesting to see if they can keep the tempo/pressing up without the break.

[Nicey]

Neither are Sturridge, Sakho and Moreno. Nor Gomez or Markovic

Rodgers got bogged down and come the end couldn't see the wood for the trees but he left a young, exciting squad.

It only appears lopsided due to injuries and the loans.
As numerous others have previously mentioned Ings and Gomez would have featured heavily and we'd have to presume Markovic would as well.

Yeah towards the end ...and I was onside with Rodgers, I was left scratching my head thinking just what the **** is he trying to do

Over thought it and made player instructions far too complex ....

Still a great manager in my books and I think we will make his mark eventually

[RedRum]

This forum seems a really nice place at the moment

[redmike65]

Have a look at the Sturridge thread!

[Gibbo]

Jurgen Klopp: "I can’t forget this ****ing loss vs. Crystal Palace. If we had won this maybe then I would have said it was more than okay.”

[dww]

Yeah that quote amused me and seemed to speak of a healthy winning attitude. I think a lot of people have been getting a bit carried away with his impact - good to see he is still focused on results.

[Bender]

[ame]https://twitter.com/FootballVines/status/671985633582256128[/ame]

[Nicey]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSegCT9eZoc"]Jurgen Klopp:"I Cant Forget This ****ing Loss Against Crystal Palace" - YouTube[/ame]

Neither can we Jurgen .... anybody says a bad word against this gorgeous man gets a slap with a large wet fish

[danperkins]

The chap is an absolute legend. Hilarious

[Assassin]

https://twitter.com/FootballVines/st...85633582256128

Just love his straight forwardness and honesty

[Cormack74]

Agreed, time for him to bring up the **** level of support at home games now.

[Nicey]

We are hard workers .. thats all we all love this club because you cannot be in Liverpool for the weather

Rafa move over

[meffin]

We finally can replace the Rafa magic gif