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    Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
    I reckon he can rest Robbo on Wednesday.

    Hopefully Hendo was a precaution and sounds as if Thiago is close.

    Maybe play Minamino on Weds instead of Bobby or Mane, Salah hopefully fit.

    We will need to rest Matip, so Williams at CB. Then see where we are on Saturday. With a full squad we could rotate a lot, but we are miles from that.
    Hopefully we can rest a few guys midweek, if we can get a win in that game we are through and a point against Ajax or a win against Midtjylland would mean we win the group so can hopefully rest the first team players in at least one of those two games depending on how we prioritise winning the group.
    The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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      Klopp said on lfctv that Thiago is still not in team training and he'll wait for the briefing of the medical team tomorrow to see if he's going to play some part.
      Are we winning?

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        Originally posted by Pepe79 View Post
        https://twitter.com/DesignFootyIG/st...32716895858689

        Sky didn't show this part. Obviously.

        ****ing love him.
        He nailed that. The context is key.

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          If he's not careful he's going to go from hero to zero with the media. He's had a fairly easy ride as he's been accommodating from day one and funny and at ease. Having the media on your side makes life so much easier. This arsey tone he's taken of late is a little bit mourinho esq. He might well be justified but I think he's expressing it at the wrong time. He's constantly on at the officials during the game which I've never been a fan of but I know he's just looking for explanations. But we have all seen what happens that the media start putting the knifes in, they keep pushing to get a response. He'd be best advised to step back and let Pep do them for a while.
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            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
            If he's not careful he's going to go from hero to zero with the media. He's had a fairly easy ride as he's been accommodating from day one and funny and at ease. Having the media on your side makes life so much easier. This arsey tone he's taken of late is a little bit mourinho esq. He might well be justified but I think he's expressing it at the wrong time. He's constantly on at the officials during the game which I've never been a fan of but I know he's just looking for explanations. But we have all seen what happens that the media start putting the knifes in, they keep pushing to get a response. He'd be best advised to step back and let Pep do them for a while.
            Today's Paxman-esque interview with Des Kelly on BT would give him the perfect excuse to boycott BT interviews at the very least.

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              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
              If he's not careful he's going to go from hero to zero with the media. He's had a fairly easy ride as he's been accommodating from day one and funny and at ease. Having the media on your side makes life so much easier. This arsey tone he's taken of late is a little bit mourinho esq. He might well be justified but I think he's expressing it at the wrong time. He's constantly on at the officials during the game which I've never been a fan of but I know he's just looking for explanations. But we have all seen what happens that the media start putting the knifes in, they keep pushing to get a response. He'd be best advised to step back and let Pep do them for a while.
              You make some good points, but ultimately my point of view is, **** em.
              Originally posted by calvoboy View Post
              Today's Paxman-esque interview with Des Kelly on BT would give him the perfect excuse to boycott BT interviews at the very least.
              That Des Kelly went into that interview fully armed, and ready for battle.

              That's fine, but if the TV channels don't admit that they are a part of the problem, then we'll go on circles.

              And strangely enough, that is their interests too as it makes for good TV.
              Oh I don't know.

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                Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                If he's not careful he's going to go from hero to zero with the media. He's had a fairly easy ride as he's been accommodating from day one and funny and at ease. Having the media on your side makes life so much easier. This arsey tone he's taken of late is a little bit mourinho esq. He might well be justified but I think he's expressing it at the wrong time. He's constantly on at the officials during the game which I've never been a fan of but I know he's just looking for explanations. But we have all seen what happens that the media start putting the knifes in, they keep pushing to get a response. He'd be best advised to step back and let Pep do them for a while.
                I fear you may be right and this will be reported like "Rafa's Rant", it doesn't matter whether he is right or not it will probably piss people off which will get him negative press.
                The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                  And why do we care in which light the media hold him? It's not like the media have ever really been complimentary of Liverpool in the past. If they're out to get us, who cares? It doesn't really make a huge impact on what we do on the pitch. The only difference will be on the general opinion and opposition fans opinion which has never been of much importance to me.

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                    Originally posted by dom9 View Post
                    You make some good points, but ultimately my point of view is, **** em.
                    THIS is a good point- **** em!

                    If the media turn on us, klopp will use it to fire up the players!
                    I don't tip

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                      Originally posted by Zapater View Post
                      And why do we care in which light the media hold him? It's not like the media have ever really been complimentary of Liverpool in the past. If they're out to get us, who cares? It doesn't really make a huge impact on what we do on the pitch. The only difference will be on the general opinion and opposition fans opinion which has never been of much importance to me.
                      Exactly
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        What I'd pay to see Jurgen in his next BT interview with Des Kelly to just say "Have you got any sensible questions today? No? Bye-bye then..." and just walk off...

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                          Originally posted by Zapater View Post
                          And why do we care in which light the media hold him? It's not like the media have ever really been complimentary of Liverpool in the past. If they're out to get us, who cares? It doesn't really make a huge impact on what we do on the pitch. The only difference will be on the general opinion and opposition fans opinion which has never been of much importance to me.
                          Because he's trying to persuade people of the need to change the schedules and substitution rules. That's why he's saying it. Having the majority of people watching thinking he's whining like a sore loser detracts from the persuasiveness of his arguments and not only fails to win support, but may even put people off. It's not about us or klopp Vs the media, they're not 'out to get us', it's about Klopp trying to bring about change and going about it poorly with tetchy post match interviews.

                          Originally posted by Tribute View Post
                          What I'd pay to see Jurgen in his next BT interview with Des Kelly to just say "Have you got any sensible questions today? No? Bye-bye then..." and just walk off...
                          I just don't understand.
                          Last edited by Kenneth; 30-11-20, 03:56 PM.
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                            He did it after the Leicester game too..
                            Oh I don't know.

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                              And still the takeaway for the majority is that klopp is whining/ranting. Just reinforces the idea that post match interviews are not an effective medium for trying to address serious topics. They're for a bland 5-10 second sound bite on MOTD and/or the news.

                              And let's not pretend the situation we're in has nothing to do with the club. We all knew we are going in to the season light at the back, and did so knowing the schedule, and that there would be objections to keeping 5 subs. We could have mitigated this better so can't put 100% of blame on others without being unreasonable.
                              Last edited by Kenneth; 30-11-20, 05:51 PM.
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                                Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                                And still the takeaway for the majority is that klopp is whining/ranting. Just reinforces the idea that post match interviews are not an effective medium for trying to address serious topics. They're for a bland 5-10 second sound bite on MOTD and/or the news.

                                And let's not pretend the situation we're in has nothing to do with the club. We all knew we are going in to the season light at the back, and did so knowing the schedule, and that there would be objections to keeping 5 subs. We could have mitigated this better so can't put 100% of blame on others without being unreasonable.
                                Light at the back?

                                I'm sure his plan was always to play Fab as a stop gap centre back should it be required. More than an adequate replacement for Lovern.

                                What he didn't foresee was losing our two starting CBs to season ending injuries.

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