Georginio Wijnaldum

[danperkins]

Coutinho had a decent scoring record last season, but for me his finishing isn't good enough, he gets himself into some great positions and often his finishing lets him down. He got to 10 goals, but IMO with the chances he had he probably should have got close to double that.

[Nicey]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouLn3sopQ7M"]Jurgen Klopp on Georginio Wijnaldum - YouTube[/ame]

[el matador]

I'm still trying to figure out what this lad should be doing in our team. What's his role in the because he's a neat and tidy player, he's got some decent attributes but I cant see what he should be doing.

[redmike65]

I thought he's was going to be a Kevin Großkreutz type figure - no particular position every week but could work around the midfield esp on the left half. He's not a deeper CM anyway that's a waste. Does Klopp have the nous to convert him in to one?

[Irishnev]

I thought he's was going to be a Kevin Großkreutz type figure - no particular position every week but could work around the kkkmidfield esp on the left half. He's not a deeper CM anyway that's a waste. Does Klopp have the nous to convert him in to one?

I would have said that the Großkreutz 'role' the squad would be Milner and if you are looking for Dortmund comparisons then GW is more similar in style to Kagawa possibly.

[redmike65]

I see your point but Milner is surely in his last season at the club so if he wants someone to fill that role in the medium term then I'd say Wijnaldum is probably that player.

[danperkins]

Until he's actually played in his proper position it's hard to judge. Looks lost playing so deep.

[badpiggy]

I don't get him. He's just a man on a pitch playing football. So is Henderson.

[Phoenix07]

Until he's actually played in his proper position it's hard to judge. Looks lost playing so deep.

I think it'll be next year before we see him playing further forward. It looks like we've settled on him being a stop gap, which is why I kept saying he'll play alongside Can.

Inter won't sell Brozovic, and Dahoud isn't leaving BMG this year. Both may attract more attention next year from European powerhouses, so we'll have to see.

Klopp had Bender and Kehl at Dortmund, both of whom could tackle aggressively, but also press. We don't really have anyone like that, although I think Can is being remodeled into that. Henderson is being asked to play a deeper role, when perhaps, he should be the backup to the maim box-to-box player.

It does look imbalanced at the moment, but it's early days.

[danperkins]

I think it'll be next year before we see him playing further forward. It looks like we've settled on him being a stop gap, which is why I kept saying he'll play alongside Can.

Inter won't sell Brozovic, and Dahoud isn't leaving BMG this year. Both may attract more attention next year from European powerhouses, so we'll have to see.

Klopp had Bender and Kehl at Dortmund, both of whom could tackle aggressively, but also press. We don't really have anyone like that, although I think Can is being remodeled into that. Henderson is being asked to play a deeper role, when perhaps, he should be the backup to the maim box-to-box player.

It does look imbalanced at the moment, but it's early days.

Yeah a few have been saying Klopp wants the team to work as a unit, lots of athletic players working hard. That's all well and good but he has always played with a dedicated DM. None of our lads bar Lucas (who can't run anymore) can provide that defensive cover we blatantly need. We need a DM badly, it's so ****ing obvious.

Can, Hendo and Wijnaldum all have progressive games, I've been saying this since Klopp came in it's shackling them and negating their best qualities by trying to remodel them into something they are not.

[Daniel 7]

Square peg?

[Irishnev]

I see your point but Milner is surely in his last season at the club so if he wants someone to fill that role in the medium term then I'd say Wijnaldum is probably that player.

Surely you say.....

[frank the tank]

For me, we need to settle on a formation and pretty much stick to it every week.

GW can play a number of positions but i think he will make most difference playing in the same position every week.

I would like to see him start on the left wing in a 4-3-3 formation. And maybe on the right instead if Sadio Mane isn't available. I think GW has the athleticism to be able to support the full backs whilst also offering an attacking option when we are attacking (and counter attacking)

For me, the biggest improvement with the players we have will be by putting Coutinho in a #8 position in a 4-3-3 formation. Coutinho is at his devastating best when he has the ball at his feet, deep on the pitch with lots of runners in front of him. To get the best out of Coutinho will bring us most success in my view.

So I would like to see Lallana taken out of the team altogether and used as a sub / squad player. GW moved to a wide position and a very hard working striker to bring it all together.

I think with a team like:

------------------------------------MIGNOLET-----------------------------

CLYNE-------------LOVREN----------------------KLAVEN--------MORENO


-------------------------------------CAN------------------------------------

---------------HENDERSON------------------COUTINHO-------------------

MANE-----------------------------------------------------------WJINALDUM

--------------------------------ORIGI----------------------------------------



will have most of the team playing in their preferred positions. And although people will think that we should make space for Sturridge and Firmino in the team, i just don't see them working hard enough (maybe Firmino in place of Origi at times) to play the way Klopp wants us to set up.

For me, this line up - with players like Firmino, Sturridge, Lallana, Ings, Milner, gives Klopp the best starting 11 to implement his style of play. It allows us to break at pace but also gives us the opportunity to defend as a pack as well. But it also gives us the opportunity to change the game from the bench with the likes of Sturridge and Ings or to close the game from the bench with players like Lucas and Milner.

[el matador]

For me, we need to settle on a formation and pretty much stick to it every week.

GW can play a number of positions but i think he will make most difference playing in the same position every week.

I would like to see him start on the left wing in a 4-3-3 formation. And maybe on the right instead if Sadio Mane isn't available. I think GW has the athleticism to be able to support the full backs whilst also offering an attacking option when we are attacking (and counter attacking)

For me, the biggest improvement with the players we have will be by putting Coutinho in a #8 position in a 4-3-3 formation. Coutinho is at his devastating best when he has the ball at his feet, deep on the pitch with lots of runners in front of him. To get the best out of Coutinho will bring us most success in my view.

So I would like to see Lallana taken out of the team altogether and used as a sub / squad player. GW moved to a wide position and a very hard working striker to bring it all together.

I think with a team like:

------------------------------------MIGNOLET-----------------------------

CLYNE-------------LOVREN----------------------KLAVEN--------MORENO


-------------------------------------CAN------------------------------------

---------------HENDERSON------------------COUTINHO-------------------

MANE-----------------------------------------------------------WJINALDUM

--------------------------------ORIGI----------------------------------------



will have most of the team playing in their preferred positions. And although people will think that we should make space for Sturridge and Firmino in the team, i just don't see them working hard enough (maybe Firmino in place of Origi at times) to play the way Klopp wants us to set up.

For me, this line up - with players like Firmino, Sturridge, Lallana, Ings, Milner, gives Klopp the best starting 11 to implement his style of play. It allows us to break at pace but also gives us the opportunity to defend as a pack as well. But it also gives us the opportunity to change the game from the bench with the likes of Sturridge and Ings or to close the game from the bench with players like Lucas and Milner.

looks good to me and wijnaldum has played wide left for netherlands and newcastle before. We all know coutinho has played in the middle 3 before too. we get more control in midfield, and a bit more pace and penetration in the final 3rd but we have to trust kloppo.

[labourRed]

A lightweight midfield will not get better by putting Coutinho there. If we had a solid one or two DMs then perhaps. Although swapping Wjinaldum and Coutinho would work.

I'd never tire of watching Coutinho cutting in and shooting.