Philippe Coutinho Post-LFC

[labourRed]

It happened at a time when we have a decent squad capable of doing well without him. We got a lot of cash. It went about as well as it could have done for us I think.

It's a case of how capable you think that midfield is I guess.

It's definitely not worth getting worked up over. We could have held onto him and he could've done his ACL and we'd be in the same position. He was always going to go - it's just weakened us considerably for the second half of the season, I just hope we invest the money that's needed into the squad and we might be better for it.

He was crucial to our style so i expect we'll drop off in terms of goals scored and become less of an attacking force.

[baitman]

It happened at a time when we have a decent squad capable of doing well without him. We got a lot of cash. It went about as well as it could have done for us I think.

even with this better squad we still lack any creativity from midfield and whenever phil has been out we have really struggled to provide the bullets for our front men.

add to that mane having a run of poor form and the rest of the midfield hiding whenever possible i think his loss will be massive.

the only possible plus points is the arrival of vvd and possibly others that will plug other holes and lessen the loss of phil, the figlio di puttana.

[dom9]

even with this better squad we still lack any creativity from midfield and whenever phil has been out we have really struggled to provide the bullets for our front men.

add to that mane having a run of poor form and the rest of the midfield hiding whenever possible i think his loss will be massive.

the only possible plus points is the arrival of vvd and possibly others that will plug other holes and lessen the loss of phil, the figlio di puttana.

from bbc, so dont know if these biased cunts have it right.

Liverpool with and without Coutinho in 2017-18 prem games.

Liverpool have picked up more points per game without Coutinho this season than with him

without ..... with
13 Games 9
6 Wins 6
6 Draws 2
1 Losses 1
46.20 Win % 66.70
1.8 Points per game 2.2

[Fuzzy]

Those stats say the opposite though?

Anyway I don't think we'll get top 4 without a really good replacement.

[dom9]

Haha - Oh yeah.

[gratziani]

He would have been out for three weeks anyhow with his thigh problem.

So we would have had the same problem

[Fosterbloke]

Haha - Oh yeah.

Too early for stats too?

[baitman]

did you see this bit...

from bbc, so dont know if these biased cunts have it right.

[Assassin]

When he was in the team and we played the more physical sides, I always felt like we were half a man short on the pitch and vice versa with the less physical games I felt like we had a half a man extra.

Based on this and there being more physical teams in the PL I dont think we will miss him that much....

I also feel that Mane was more effective when cout wasnt playing

[dom9]

did you see this bit...

from bbc, so dont know if these biased cunts have it right.

You can't seriously be questioning the impartiality of our national broadcaster?

[RedReet]

I think BM has those stats back to front.


1 8/12/17 A Liverpool FC (4.) Watford FC Watford (10.) 3:3 Back trouble
2 8/19/17 H Liverpool FC (9.) Crystal Palace Crystal Palace (19.) 1:0 Back trouble
3 8/27/17 H Liverpool FC (6.) Arsenal FC Arsenal (11.) 4:0 Back trouble
4 9/9/17 A Liverpool FC (2.) Manchester City Man City (4.) 5:0 Not in squad
5 9/16/17 H Liverpool FC (8.) Burnley FC Burnley (7.) 1:1 AM 79'
6 9/23/17 A Liverpool FC (8.) Leicester City Leicester (15.) 2:3 LW 1 1 79'
7 10/1/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) Newcastle United Newcastle (9.) 1:1 AM 1 90'
8 10/14/17 H Liverpool FC (7.) Manchester United Man Utd (2.) 0:0 LW 79'
9 10/22/17 A Liverpool FC (8.) Tottenham Hotspur Spurs (3.) 4:1 LW 90'
10 10/28/17 H Liverpool FC (9.) Huddersfield Town Huddersfield (11.) 3:0 Wound
11 11/4/17 A Liverpool FC (6.) West Ham United West Ham (16.) 1:4 Wound
12 11/18/17 H Liverpool FC (5.) Southampton FC Southampton (13.) 3:0 AM 1 1 69'
13 11/25/17 H Liverpool FC (5.) Chelsea FC Chelsea (3.) 1:1 LW 89'
14 11/29/17 A Liverpool FC (6.) Stoke City Stoke City (15.) 0:3 on the bench
15 12/2/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton (10.) 1:5 AM 1 3 90'
16 12/10/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Everton FC Everton (10.) 1:1 AM 12'
17 12/13/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) West Bromwich Albion West Brom (17.) 0:0 AM 90'
18 12/17/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) AFC Bournemouth Bournemouth (14.) 0:4 LW 1 1 87'
19 12/22/17 A Liverpool FC (4.) Arsenal FC Arsenal (5.) 3:3 AM 1 84'
20 12/26/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Swansea City Swansea (20.) 5:0 LW 1 1 90'
21 12/30/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Leicester City Leicester (8.) 2:1 AM 89'
22 1/1/18 A Liverpool FC (4.) Burnley FC Burnley (7.) 1:2 Hamstring Injury


Bold games are the PL games Coutinho missed. Watford we should have won, bar a late goal that was legally offside. City game obviously influenced by the dodgy red. Factoring in the demolition of Hoffenheim, some of our best performances have been without him.

That's not to say we won't miss him, we desperately will, but to say that we have lacked creativity and struggled to 'provide bullets' when he's been out this year is clearly not true.

[dom9]

I think BM has those stats back to front.


1 8/12/17 A Liverpool FC (4.) Watford FC Watford (10.) 3:3 Back trouble
2 8/19/17 H Liverpool FC (9.) Crystal Palace Crystal Palace (19.) 1:0 Back trouble
3 8/27/17 H Liverpool FC (6.) Arsenal FC Arsenal (11.) 4:0 Back trouble
4 9/9/17 A Liverpool FC (2.) Manchester City Man City (4.) 5:0 Not in squad
5 9/16/17 H Liverpool FC (8.) Burnley FC Burnley (7.) 1:1 AM 79'
6 9/23/17 A Liverpool FC (8.) Leicester City Leicester (15.) 2:3 LW 1 1 79'
7 10/1/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) Newcastle United Newcastle (9.) 1:1 AM 1 90'
8 10/14/17 H Liverpool FC (7.) Manchester United Man Utd (2.) 0:0 LW 79'
9 10/22/17 A Liverpool FC (8.) Tottenham Hotspur Spurs (3.) 4:1 LW 90'
10 10/28/17 H Liverpool FC (9.) Huddersfield Town Huddersfield (11.) 3:0 Wound
11 11/4/17 A Liverpool FC (6.) West Ham United West Ham (16.) 1:4 Wound
12 11/18/17 H Liverpool FC (5.) Southampton FC Southampton (13.) 3:0 AM 1 1 69'
13 11/25/17 H Liverpool FC (5.) Chelsea FC Chelsea (3.) 1:1 LW 89'
14 11/29/17 A Liverpool FC (6.) Stoke City Stoke City (15.) 0:3 on the bench
15 12/2/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) Brighton & Hove Albion Brighton (10.) 1:5 AM 1 3 90'
16 12/10/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Everton FC Everton (10.) 1:1 AM 12'
17 12/13/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) West Bromwich Albion West Brom (17.) 0:0 AM 90'
18 12/17/17 A Liverpool FC (5.) AFC Bournemouth Bournemouth (14.) 0:4 LW 1 1 87'
19 12/22/17 A Liverpool FC (4.) Arsenal FC Arsenal (5.) 3:3 AM 1 84'
20 12/26/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Swansea City Swansea (20.) 5:0 LW 1 1 90'
21 12/30/17 H Liverpool FC (4.) Leicester City Leicester (8.) 2:1 AM 89'
22 1/1/18 A Liverpool FC (4.) Burnley FC Burnley (7.) 1:2 Hamstring Injury


Bold games are the PL games Coutinho missed. Watford we should have won, bar a late goal that was legally offside. City game obviously influenced by the dodgy red. Factoring in the demolition of Hoffenheim, some of our best performances have been without him.

That's not to say we won't miss him, we desperately will, but to say that we have lacked creativity and struggled to 'provide bullets' when he's been out this year is clearly not true.

20 goals in 8 games.

[dom9]

And he didn't help score hatfulls against the following bus parkers at Anfield:

Burnley
Man U
Everton
West Brom

[dww]

even with this better squad we still lack any creativity from midfield and whenever phil has been out we have really struggled to provide the bullets for our front men.

add to that mane having a run of poor form and the rest of the midfield hiding whenever possible i think his loss will be massive.

the only possible plus points is the arrival of vvd and possibly others that will plug other holes and lessen the loss of phil, the figlio di puttana.

We have mostly been without Lallana and I think with VVD we have a better chance of turning tight games into victories. It is obviously not a great thing to lose one of your best payers. My point was more that I think it was inevitable and the timing and value obtained were minimally bad.

If we get top four with the current squad and have the money to invest in the summer I think that would represent significant progress in terms of the building of a sustainable squad that can go on to win things and deal with players leaving or being injured.

[Norbs]

Haha - Oh yeah.

Stats are correct , I think the formatting is swapped around. We did better without him gamr by game although not sure which games we won etc