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    Originally posted by KingKenny View Post
    The Cowboys are hitting top form at the right time, I would not count them out beating the Bears to the SB.
    Romo was very effective yesterday esp in the 4th quarter. That last drive he threw a 44 yarder completion to the ever so underrated Witten to st up the winning field goal. Impressive.
    The Bears won again thanks to their defence and special teams, Grossman was awful throwing for a measly 34 yards.
    The Titans played the Colts very well this season, they lost 16-17 in the first meeting but made up for it yesterday with a win.
    Sixty yard field goal, by god is that amazing or what.
    The Pats got a scare but survived. Kitna having one of his better days for the Lions.
    A special mention to the dog pound Browns & Arizona for winning tough games. Good to see some of them teams winning a game or two.
    How about dem COWBOYS
    Have to admit there was 2 dodgy calls that NYG did not get. It could have changed the game but the refs missed it. The Henry(useless he is) pass interfernece on Shockey should have been called and then there was another one which escapes me mind. Anyways, the way the BOYS are playing I would not be surprised if they did reach the SB.
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      Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
      It is indeed very rare but i really dont think it should be. to my eyes, loads of footballers kick the ball a long way further than that, and as for rugby, paul thorburn of wales for instance, could do 60m plus no trouble
      Ahh this old chestnut. Rugby in particular, they kick it under no pressure at all and with the ball completely stable, plus the ball is slightly more rounded so more suitable for kicking. In American Football, they have to deal with someone holding the ball up for them (laces out!) and 11 nutters going all out to smash their face in. It's harder, people have done studies into it. If it was easy, everyone would be nailing 60-yarders wouldn't they, and a lot of kickers these days used to play footy (think the Gramaticas played at home in Argieland for one)
      "the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"

      LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07

      "i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"

      Revo on DJS

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        Originally posted by Fiddy View Post
        In American Football, they have to deal with someone holding the ball up for them (laces out!) )
        if you understand anything about physics or projectiles youd know that is irrelevant

        Originally posted by Fiddy View Post
        and 11 nutters going all out to smash their face in.
        as above

        Originally posted by Fiddy View Post
        It's harder, people have done studies into it. If it was easy, everyone would be nailing 60-yarders wouldn't they, and a lot of kickers these days used to play footy (think the Gramaticas played at home in Argieland for one)
        your point about ball shape is the only relevant one in terms of the physics - everything else is psychological - and remember theres a line of giants blocking the 11 chargers. the optimum trajectory for distance is 45 degrees which should make the chargers irrelevant to the perfect kick.

        main point is that the reasons 60m plus kicks arent made every week is primarily psychological. its just waiting for someone with the physical and pschological attributes needed to go out and rewrite the record books - no different from the 4 minute mile or anything similar.
        drunk knows best

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          Hang on a minute, who said we should only be talking about physics?! Seeing as they probably make up less than half the reason why 60 yard FG's aren't made all the time, looking at it from that point of view is irrelevant.

          There's so many more variables to kicking a FG than a conversion/penalty in rugby - where the kicker basically only has to worry about their leg strength, accuracy, and wind if applicable.
          "the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"

          LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07

          "i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"

          Revo on DJS

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            Originally posted by enema of the state View Post
            the optimum trajectory for distance is 45 degrees which should make the chargers irrelevant to the perfect kick.
            Wouldn't the optimum trajectory change depending on the length of kick attempted? For longer kicks the trajectory would have to be a lesser angle, allowing the blockers a greater chance of getting a hand on the ball as it goes by.
            I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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              it's all explained in this

              Horizontal Launch Velocity (Component)
              Vx2 = V1 . Cos q

              I am Chief Inspector Jacque Clouseau.

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                Originally posted by mersey86 View Post
                Wouldn't the optimum trajectory change depending on the length of kick attempted? For longer kicks the trajectory would have to be a lesser angle, allowing the blockers a greater chance of getting a hand on the ball as it goes by.


                ...Which is another reason you rarely even see ATTEMPTS at a 60-yd FG, unless a team is really desperate. If the game isn't on the line, they'd either punt or just go for it on fourth
                "the correct decision would have been a penalty for us a red card for Gattuso and a yellow for Stevie"

                LF Clove aka AFII 11/10/07

                "i personally hold you and several other gob****es responsible for the chaos this club is in"

                Revo on DJS

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                  Originally posted by mersey86 View Post
                  Wouldn't the optimum trajectory change depending on the length of kick attempted? For longer kicks the trajectory would have to be a lesser angle, allowing the blockers a greater chance of getting a hand on the ball as it goes by.
                  no

                  45 degree trajectory sends ball furthest before it returns to the ground
                  drunk knows best

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                    Originally posted by REDSCOUSER View Post
                    How about dem COWBOYS

                    Glory hunter!:bird:

                    Have to admit there was 2 dodgy calls that NYG did not get. It could have changed the game but the refs missed it. The Henry(useless he is) pass interfernece on Shockey should have been called and then there was another one which escapes me mind. Anyways, the way the BOYS are playing I would not be surprised if they did reach the SB.
                    The Cowgirls always get dodgy calls. Seems to be a natural occurrence in every game

                    Should be a great game vs. the Saints this weekend. Can't see the NO defense coping unfortunately. Have backed the Cowgirls at -6.5

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                      Originally posted by Red Star View Post
                      The Cowgirls always get dodgy calls. Seems to be a natural occurrence in every game

                      Should be a great game vs. the Saints this weekend. Can't see the NO defense coping unfortunately. Have backed the Cowgirls at -6.5
                      are you manutdaremuck in disguise
                      I am Chief Inspector Jacque Clouseau.

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                        Originally posted by KingKenny View Post
                        are you manutdaremuck in disguise
                        I rate them both about the same

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                          I almost hate the Cowpukes as much as I hate Man Utd....

                          Here is an interview I read in the Washington Post today about Joe Gibbs. It brought a big smile to my face.

                          :Perhaps for relief, he looks at a picture of the grandson who is named Joe Jackson Gibbs, after him. Two years ago, when the boy was 6, he and his father, J.D., were in a restaurant watching on TV as the Redskins played at Dallas. "That was the game we lost at the end when we gave up a bomb," Joe Gibbs said. "J.D. turned around and the boy is just bawling in tears. Then he says, 'Dad, I just hate those Cowboys.' "

                          Gibbs breaks into his biggest grin, one he hasn't used much this season. "That," he says proudly, "is my namesake.""
                          "What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on around here?" - Taggart AKA Slim Pickens in Blazing Saddles

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                            Originally posted by Red Star View Post
                            I rate them both about the same


                            When you bet on the Cowpukes to you get a point spread or is it just straight up
                            "What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on around here?" - Taggart AKA Slim Pickens in Blazing Saddles

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                              I bet the point spread (handicap) as you get better odds. Straight up they are only 1/3 but with the -6.5 pts they are 10/11. Always do accas on a few games so it can boost the winnings.

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                                Originally posted by ManUtdAreMuck View Post
                                I almost hate the Cowpukes as much as I hate Man Utd....

                                Here is an interview I read in the Washington Post today about Joe Gibbs. It brought a big smile to my face.

                                :Perhaps for relief, he looks at a picture of the grandson who is named Joe Jackson Gibbs, after him. Two years ago, when the boy was 6, he and his father, J.D., were in a restaurant watching on TV as the Redskins played at Dallas. "That was the game we lost at the end when we gave up a bomb," Joe Gibbs said. "J.D. turned around and the boy is just bawling in tears. Then he says, 'Dad, I just hate those Cowboys.' "

                                Gibbs breaks into his biggest grin, one he hasn't used much this season. "That," he says proudly, "is my namesake.""
                                i also dislike the cowboys - the nfl's equivalent of the mancs

                                however, they probably ARE currently the best nfc team
                                drunk knows best

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