De La Hoya vs Mayweather

[kemm1]

oscar should have got the draw simply cos he pushed the fight, never mind he done enough for the draw

I had Floyd winning by atleast 2 rounds. Oscar only landed when he held Floyd against the ropes and Floyd hurt him in the 5th plus landed the clean shots thoughout the fight.

Larry Merchant is also an De la hoya dick sucking prik.

[Radar]

I had Floyd winning by atleast 2 rounds. Oscar only landed when he held Floyd against the ropes and Floyd hurt him in the 5th plus landed the clean shots thoughout the fight.

Larry Merchant is also an De la hoya dick sucking prik.

LSU education :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

[Radar]

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/story/10165948/1

The careers of Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather have been impressive, bordering on other-worldly. These two have been ambassadors for boxing while demonstrating a pugnacious longevity in a sport that punishes elongated careers with damaged brain cells and overwhelmed nervous systems.

That is true, but so is this: When you watch them on Saturday, becoming one of possibly several million to do so, you will not be viewing two of the top 10 best fighters ever. No, not even De La Hoya.

The fact two of the best in boxing history do not make at least my top 10 list shows the historical depth of talent in a sport that has a long list of greatly skilled fighters going back decades.

Boxers have always amazed with their toughness and athleticism. Many of them probably could have been dominant in other sports (Muhammad Ali -- Hall of Fame tight end). Of course it is that all-around skill that separates boxers from the thuggish UFC brawlers.

My list of top 10 greats is not perfect; it is impossible to do a list like this that everyone will agree on. I've seen writers almost get into fistfights arguing over such things (boxing lists seem to inspire more passion than some others).

Some of you will do your usual whining and moaning on the message boards regarding this list. So be it. Just no biting or groin kicks.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson. This is the only inarguable ranking on this list. No fighter ever combined speed, power and agility like Robinson. He was beaten just once in his first 131 fights.

2. Henry Armstrong. His nickname was "Homicide Hank." That just about says it all. It tells you how good Robinson is that he beats out Armstrong. It was Armstrong who won titles in three different divisions and is the only fighter to hold three titles simultaneously.

3. Benny Leonard. Ring Magazine named him the second-greatest light heavyweight of all time.

4. Ali. He beat Sonny Liston and George Foreman. They were two of the biggest upsets in sports history.

Should Ali be higher on the list, say, second? Maybe. But Ali's body of work is much smaller than Robinson's (175-19-6, 109 KOs), Armstrong's (151-21-9, 101 KOs) and Leonard's (157-11-5, 69 KOs). The fighters in the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s endured much more brutal conditions.

5. Willie Pep. Had an amazing 230 victories and was the best defensive fighter who ever lived.

6. Jack Johnson. A brilliant, tactical boxer who while fighting endured unspeakable racism. He might have been the most mentally tough of all the greats.

7. Sugar Ray Leonard. Won titles at five different weights.

8. Roberto Duran. Despite "no mas" he was still a brutal, tough fighter.

9. Joe Louis. Might deserve to be much higher on this list, but quite simply is not as good a fighter as the others. He held the title for 11 years and defended it 25 times.

10. Harry Greb. He fought at least 299 times in many different weight classes throughout the 1920s.

With apologies to: Sam Langford, Jimmy Wilde, Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, Eder Jofre, Ezzard Charles, Julio Cesar Chavez, Archie Moore and Roy Jones Jr.

A De La Hoya victory just might propel him into the lower echelon of that top 10. His hand speed isn't as slow as people might think and he could absolutely shock an overconfident Mayweather.

Or will we look back at this fight and say this was the moment that Mayweather started his trek toward becoming one of the eternals.

[Guest]

Oscar was the better fighter today.

[bazza76]

Oscar was the better fighter today.

I dont agree mate, Mayweathers punches were much cleaner I had him ahead by one or two points by the end.

[Shaggy]

A draw would've been fair for me. Very tough fight to call.

[kemm1]

LSU education :whatever: :whatever: :whatever:

Right:

"According to CompuBox statistics, Mayweather landed 207 of 481 punches (43 percent). De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 (21 percent). "

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2861824

As mentioned previosuly Oscar was throughing lots and not accomplishing much.

You also didn't see the difference between the way Merchant interviewed Floyd and Oscar, o maybe yo've got the same mind set of ol' Larry?

You talk about LSU and you've got family connectons to Arkansas?

Mucky after that last post you're very suspect mate in many many things.

[Guest]

Right:

"According to CompuBox statistics, Mayweather landed 207 of 481 punches (43 percent). De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 (21 percent). "

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2861824

As mentioned previosuly Oscar was throughing lots and not accomplishing much.

You also didn't see the difference between the way Merchant interviewed Floyd and Oscar, o maybe yo've got the same mind set of ol' Larry?

You talk about LSU and you've got family connectons to Arkansas?

Mucky after that last post you're very suspect mate in many many things.

Oscar is a legend, nuff said.

[Howard_lfc]

I've seen the fight twice now - and my original idea that Mayweather won by around 3 rounds still stands.
Oscar started well enough - but ran out of gas and never won a round from the middle of the fight onwards. He may have shared a few - but he never won one.
The longer the fight went on - the number of punches from Oscar decreased to an extent where he couldn't throw a decent punch in the 11th or 12th.

I also believe that Mayweather could have found another gear - if he'd really needed to.

On another note - Oscar's missus (Millie) is bloody gorgeous !!!

[kurtangle01]

I've seen the fight twice now - and my original idea that Mayweather won by around 3 rounds still stands.
Oscar started well enough - but ran out of gas and never won a round from the middle of the fight onwards. He may have shared a few - but he never won one.
The longer the fight went on - the number of punches from Oscar decreased to an extent where he couldn't throw a decent punch in the 11th or 12th.

I also believe that Mayweather could have found another gear - if he'd really needed to.

On another note - Oscar's missus (Millie) is bloody gorgeous !!!

[Radar]

kemmo

[Howard_lfc]

Never mind agreeing with me mate.
You were supposed to be reminding me of my outrageous prediction that Mayweather might stop Oscar between 8 and 11....... and you're prediction that Oscar would win.

*looksforgloatingsmiley*

[kemm1]

Oscar is a legend, nuff said.

I disagree

[kemm1]

kemmo

Mucky :bird:
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[kurtangle01]

yeah right. Dream on baby. Dream on.

Mayweather will be too quick. Correct. and too strong. Wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if Golden Boy was stopped between round 8 and round 11. Wrong.

Never mind agreeing with me mate.
You were supposed to be reminding me of my outrageous prediction that Mayweather might stop Oscar between 8 and 11....... and you're prediction that Oscar would win.

*looksforgloatingsmiley*

Despite your prediction that Floyd would win you never got much else right, did you? Lets face it you had a 1 in 2 chance of being correct so I don't see what you've got to be smug about.

I agree though that my prediction was way off the mark.