Another wrestler dies!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe King]

ben not one thing you said make it a sport.

to me the sport is the competition. there is not real competition in wrestling. I am not criticising their physical prowess but it does not make it sport. having a unique talent does not make it sport.

The great thing about sport should be that it is not predetermined. the underdog could win. there is a chance. in wrestling there is not.

if you listen to Nash on the link earlier he quite clearly says it is not a sport.

OK, in some ways it isn't a sport however theres no denying it is a sport in others.

[CJ]

i deny it is sport in any way to be honest.

i saw a program about wrestling and how angry they get when its called fake. Might have been louis theroux.

it is clearly fake. there condition isnt fake even if it is artificially stimulated. and neither is the skill to do what they do and you have to say the time they spend doing it during the year is astonishing. i admit all that.

but in no way is it a sport.

[Joe King]

i deny it is sport in any way to be honest.

i saw a program about wrestling and how angry they get when its called fake. Might have been louis theroux.

it is clearly fake. there condition isnt fake even if it is artificially stimulated. and neither is the skill to do what they do and you have to say the time they spend doing it during the year is astonishing. i admit all that.

but in no way is it a sport.

Horses for courses mate!

[CJ]

we will have to agree to disagree

but anything that is a show and preditermined will never be a sport to me. like a trapeze artist or a ballet.

so we are not going to agree on this one. perhaps a thread with a vote on is wrestling a sport might be in order?

[Joe King]

we will have to agree to disagree

but anything that is a show and preditermined will never be a sport to me. like a trapeze artist or a ballet.

so we are not going to agree on this one. perhaps a thread with a vote on is wrestling a sport might be in order?

All I am saying is that wrestling will never be accepted as a fully recognised sport because it is predetermined however if you look at this athletes and watch them perform maneuvers then there is no denying that it has aspects of being a sport. The fact that some wrestle for 60 hours continuous tells me that these men need to be physically fit. That tells me it has aspects of being a sport.

I'm not denying the fact that it is more entertainment than sport but it should not be fully disregarded as just entertainment.

[CJ]

how does being fit make it a sport?

dancers are physially fit, the moves they do are technical and great to watch

they have no aspects of being a sport do they?

[Joe King]

how does being fit make it a sport?

dancers are physially fit, the moves they do are technical and great to watch

they have no aspects of being a sport do they?

Do dancers dance for one hour? Why is dance part of PE in schools?

[CJ]

dancers can dance for long periods yes.

and not sure about what you mean with the PE reference. PE isnt just sport its physical education.

i really cant see how wrestling is in any way a sport. its a very physical show. but the physical nature is not sport. and being physical part is not sport.

[Joe King]

dancers can dance for long periods yes.

and not sure about what you mean with the PE reference. PE isnt just sport its physical education.

i really cant see how wrestling is in any way a sport. its a very physical show. but the physical nature is not sport. and being physical part is not sport.

Physical nature not sport?
Not sure what you mean? You trying to tell me karate is not a sport ?

[CJ]

no you are missing my point. just because something is physically difficult doesnt make it a sport.

karate is due to the competition.

it is competition that makes something a sport not the fact you have to be fit to do it.

crown green bowls is a sport but you dont have to look like triple h or the undertaker to do it. no real physical prowess needed but there is competition.

[Kilteragh]

Horses for courses mate!

Sorry. There is no way in the world it is a sport. It is a choreographed soap-opera and the "winners" and the whole thing really are part of a script.

Bodyguards and bouncers can be very strong and good at their jobs as well but that doesn't mean what they do amounts to sport.

[CJ]

also karate is a martial art not a sport.

forgot to say that ooops.

[Kilteragh]

also karate is a martial art not a sport.

forgot to say that ooops.

Too late. You had your chance. Delete it.

That always used to happen me when I was young. I'd think of a great comeback for an argument about five minutes after I'd lost it.

[Joe King]

no you are missing my point. just because something is physically difficult doesnt make it a sport.

karate is due to the competition.

it is competition that makes something a sport not the fact you have to be fit to do it.

crown green bowls is a sport but you dont have to look like triple h or the undertaker to do it. no real physical prowess needed but there is competition.

I would like to think there is some competition amongst the wrestlers in the industry. The late Chris Benoit was at the top of the sport after serving just over a decade and waiting in line after response from the fans makes me think that there is competition certainly when it comes to response from the fans of wrestling

[CJ]

competition isnt sitting there doing your job and taking your turn to be a champion.

why do you think that being fit makes something a sport ben?