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Is that so?Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View PostI think cycling can be ticked off as a sports, its terrible and drug riddena dna laughing stock of sports
I wish you'd told us earlier this year - you'd have saved 2million people in Britain from going to watch the Tour de France..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Not for the racing but for the Spectacle and just because it was in England how many travelling fans went all around did they????Originally posted by Neil Young View PostIs that so?
I wish you'd told us earlier this year - you'd have saved 2million people in Britain from going to watch the Tour de France.When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........
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Millions of people watch the event every year. In fact, it's the most attended event supposedly, although how they compile the data to make these claims I don't know - what's important here is that loads of people go. Then again, I don't know how you can claim to know why 2 million people went to it in England in an attempt to suggest that everyone thinks the same as you. I realise that such an approach in argument helps you to make your point of dismissing it but...Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View PostNot for the racing but for the Spectacle and just because it was in England how many travelling fans went all around did they????
I completely understand the credibility gap that cycling faces although I do think it's unfair in comparison to something like athletics where for decades at the official level there has effectively been a policy of mass ignorance about drugs (first it was just the Eastern Europeans, then it was just one or two 'bad apples' - oh yeah, sure) or swimming. However, to rely solely on the headlines generated by high profile cases like those of Landis and Rasmussen is to ignore the attempts by plenty within cycling to clean up the sport.
It's an ongoing battle and it's by no means certain it will be won but it doesn't seem fair to me to treat the sport and everyone in it as a homogenous bloc, with no-one taking doping seriously. To do so, as so many in the mainstream media do in their quest for cheap headlines about a minority sport, doesn't encourage a positive attitude to taking on and publicising doping in any sport..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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I read the first paragraph and then got boredOriginally posted by Neil Young View PostMillions of people watch the event every year. In fact, it's the most attended event supposedly, although how they compile the data to make these claims I don't know - what's important here is that loads of people go. Then again, I don't know how you can claim to know why 2 million people went to it in England in an attempt to suggest that everyone thinks the same as you. I realise that such an approach in argument helps you to make your point of dismissing it but...
I completely understand the credibility gap that cycling faces although I do think it's unfair in comparison to something like athletics where for decades at the official level there has effectively been a policy of mass ignorance about drugs (first it was just the Eastern Europeans, then it was just one or two 'bad apples' - oh yeah, sure) or swimming. However, to rely solely on the headlines generated by high profile cases like those of Landis and Rasmussen is to ignore the attempts by plenty within cycling to clean up the sport.
It's an ongoing battle and it's by no means certain it will be won but it doesn't seem fair to me to treat the sport and everyone in it as a homogenous bloc, with no-one taking doping seriously. To do so, as so many in the mainstream media do in their quest for cheap headlines about a minority sport, doesn't encourage a positive attitude to taking on and publicising doping in any sport.
**** OFF HICKS AND GILLETT WE DON'T WANT YOU.
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Originally posted by Pacman View PostI read the first paragraph and then got bored

By the way, my inital response to foxy's post was a lot shorter but less helpful in maintaining a constructive dialogue so I changed it..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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