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    Roy Jones Jr

    Don't you wish that Roy Jones Jr. had the attitude he's displaying now in, oh, 1997, when he still had the kind of physical gifts that prompted some to call him the most talented boxer in history?

    If you missed it, not only did Jones promise to inflict all sorts of mayhem upon Felix Trinidad when they meet on Jan. 19 on an HBO Pay-Per-View card at Madison Square Garden in New York, but he also said:


    He’d travel to the U.K. to fight unbeaten super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe.

    He'd face the best light heavyweights (except for Bernard Hopkins) on their home turf.

    He'd go to Tampa, Fla., to face Antonio Tarver and to Miami, to take on Glen Johnson, each of whom has already knocked him out on neutral turf.

    He'd even be willing, he said, to take on someone like Mike Tyson or Evander Holyfield.

    It all sounded good, except didn't you wonder why he didn't call out the nearly 66-year-old Muhammad Ali, 59-year-old George Foreman and 53-year-old Marvin Hagler while he was at it?

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    It was typical Jones, as he takes another low-risk, big-money fight which he asks the public to pay outrageous prices to see. It's $50 on pay-per-view, which is a bargain compared to the $15,000 — yes, $15,000 — it will set you back for a front-row seat.

    Trinidad has about as much chance to beat Jones as the Clippers do of winning the NBA championship.

    The last time we saw Trinidad, he was jabbed silly by Winky Wright, who used just his right hand to win every round of their May 2005 bout in Las Vegas.

    That loss sent Trinidad into a second retirement, where he happily stayed until he was lured out by promoter Don King.

    King is the greatest promoter in boxing history, but his cupboard has been barren over the last several years as he's aged and lost the frenetic energy that made him a modern marvel.

    He desperately needed Trinidad, a tried-and-true ticket seller over the years, because he had no one else with whom he could make a big fight.

    King talked Charles and James Dolan out of an enormous site fee to put the bout in Madison Square Garden.

    It might have been a big deal in 1999 when, a day after defeating Oscar De La Hoya in a battle of unbeaten welterweight champions, Trinidad shocked the world by saying he'd rather face Jones, the then-reigning light heavyweight champion, than give De La Hoya a rematch on anything less than even financial terms.

    Trinidad wasn't good enough to beat Jones on his best day and he's surely not close to good enough to beat him now, coming off of a 2-1/2 year retirement.

    Jones is hardly at his peak, either, but he's been somewhat active and is still too big, too strong and too fast for Trinidad.

    Trinidad doesn't now — nor did he ever — have the kind of style that would ever make someone like Jones worry.

    Trinidad's strength as a welterweight, super welterweight and then middleweight was the power in his hands.

    He was a huge puncher at 147 and at 154 and a good, though hardly overwhelming puncher at 160.

    But at 170 pounds and after a 2-1/2 year layoff, he won't be able to hurt Jones unless he sneaks a weapon into the ring with him.

    That's exactly the kind of fight that Jones has favored over the years. He hasn't sought out the biggest and the best, even though for most of his career he was the most gifted fighter alive.

    He refused to travel to Europe to meet Dariusz Michalczewski, who built up a great following in Germany while holding the WBO light heavyweight title from 1994 until 2003.

    Jones would have beaten Michalczewski easily, but he would never travel to Europe to make the fight happen so he could prove it.

    Nor would he consider a trip to the U.K., to meet Calzaghe, despite the fact a Jones-Calzaghe bout in 2001 or 2002 could have drawn a crowd in excess of 50,000 in Cardiff, Wales.

    But now that he's a part-time boxer with no logical super bout on the horizon, Jones suddenly begins to talk tough and say he'll fight anyone anywhere at any time. Yeah, thanks for that, Roy.

    I wanted to hear that from you when Hopkins and James Toney were begging for — and deserving of — a rematch. I wanted to hear that when you could have faced Michalczewski instead of Ricky Frazier, a New York City police officer.

    Despite King's efforts to convince an unknowing public otherwise, this fight will be little more than a one-sided exhibition.

    On the one hand, you have a guy who hasn't fought since losing to Wright on May 14, 2005, and who hasn't won a round since Oct. 2, 2004. And remember, Trinidad is a guy who has never weighed more than 160 pounds for any of his 44 fights.

    On the other hand is a guy who has fought once in each of the last three years, who hasn't had a win of note in more than four years, since scoring a controversial decision over Tarver on Nov. 8, 2003, and who once won a piece of the heavyweight title.

    Jones is bigger, stronger and faster and will, even at his diminished skill level, manhandle Trinidad. If Jones wants to take a risk, he'll live up to his promise and will knock Trinidad out in the first half of the fight.

    Or, if as seems more likely, he wants to play it cautiously, he'll embarrass Trinidad with his speed and quickness and win a lopsided and largely uninspiring decision. Jones called himself a warrior and Superman as he talked of the doom he's going to inflict upon Trinidad.

    And I couldn't help but be wistful, wishing he'd have thought that way a decade or so ago, when there were so many great fights to be made that he simply avoided.

    Roy Jones Jr. cheated the fans then and he's going to do it again on Jan. 19.
    Would of loved to see him fight Steve Collins back in the day but Jones chickened out much to the fans frustration and Collins who i remember went into the ring after one of Jones fights but Jones was having no of it

    Fraud of a boxer in my view
    When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

    #2
    was a great boxer in his prime. ****ing animal.

    Dunno if my memory is playing tricks on me but I thought I remembered Collins saying his reason for retiring was because he didnt feel deep down he had a chnce of beating Jones so there was no point in him boxing any more?

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      #3
      Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
      was a great boxer in his prime. ****ing animal.

      Dunno if my memory is playing tricks on me but I thought I remembered Collins saying his reason for retiring was because he didnt feel deep down he had a chnce of beating Jones so there was no point in him boxing any more?
      You could be right but i remember Collins going after him but Jones wouldnt go near him and just had a fight with a nobody in is backyard
      When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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        #4
        Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View Post

        Fraud of a boxer in my view


        That's so harsh. Jones in his prime was absolutly untouchable. Don't forget he beat James Toney and B-Hop. He also went from middle to heavy weight champ with all the stops in between.

        No way was he a fraud. He was a supremely talented boxer. Top ten P4P in my opinion.

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          #5
          Originally posted by spud_gun View Post


          That's so harsh. Jones in his prime was absolutly untouchable. Don't forget he beat James Toney and B-Hop. He also went from middle to heavy weight champ with all the stops in between.

          No way was he a fraud. He was a supremely talented boxer. Top ten P4P in my opinion.

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            #6
            Theres no question he was a class act, but what makes me laugh is that throughout his career he has only ever taken fights that he wanted, he has avoided people, talked **** and generally made himself look way better than, in my opinion, he has actually been.
            Its his attitude more than a lack of ability because he definitley had the ability.
            Hes like Jimmy White, very good but could have been far far better.
            RAFA

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              #7
              Fraud of a boxer, you´ve got to be kidding me. One of the very best of his generation. He would have beaten Collins with relative ease I think, and I really rated Collins too.

              This was one of my favourite KOs ever, so cheeky:



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                #8
                Fraud as in he didnt always fight the best he just took on ordinary joes

                No doubt he was class
                When you feel like you're done, you are not alone........

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by thesilverfoxlfc View Post
                  You could be right but i remember Collins going after him but Jones wouldnt go near him and just had a fight with a nobody in is backyard
                  This question has been asked before:
                  clicky
                  Read the replies to the original question.
                  Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                  'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                  "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                  * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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