Fatty Hayden

[Harv]

Which team is winning?

That's all that counts.

By the way, if cricket really needs this rancour to make it a better spectacle then there's something wrong with the game.

What was that ? I think i just heard someone fall of their cycle.

[Harv]

I'm sure Haydos would. And if anyone said anything to him, he'd have to run ot the umpire and tell them

The little tell-tale. Not a good image for a hardman

when has he "told" on anyone? He just said Bahji was a cock....which he clearly is. Does anyone even debate this fact? Bhaji is an absolute cunt of a cricketer, talented, yes, but as annoying as they get.

im finished on this discusion....its going nowhere

[Neil Young]

What was that ? I think i just heard someone fall of their cycle.

To clarify, I don't think cricket really benefits from this sort of childish squabbling. The 2005 Ashes series was very intense, and not without the verbals, yet still played with a fair degree of sportsmanship and it was all the better for it.

[Shaggy]

Which team is winning?

That's all that counts.

By the way, if cricket really needs this rancour to make it a better spectacle then there's something wrong with the game.

Who said it “needs it”?

Any sport is better with a bit of needle in it, though. Football, cricket, snooker, boxing, whatever. Added intensity, pressure and the rest of it. It raises the stakes. This surely goes without saying.

[Shaggy]

To clarify, I don't think cricket really benefits from this sort of childish squabbling. The 2005 Ashes series was very intense, and not without the verbals, yet still played with a fair degree of sportsmanship and it was all the better for it.

I see.

Well then I agree. I want to see this needle on the pitch between India and Australia – it’s the petty snitching and post-match sniping that the game can do without.

[Harv]

To clarify, I don't think cricket really benefits from this sort of childish squabbling. The 2005 Ashes series was very intense, and not without the verbals, yet still played with a fair degree of sportsmanship and it was all the better for it.

That ashes test was the best series of cricket ive ever witnessed. Even though we lost, it was still utterly enthralling from first match to last.


I still say the Poms cheated with that whole mint thing. They were getting ridiculous swing, and it was because of the mints in the mouth, im sure of it.

[Shaggy]

That ashes test was the best series of cricket ive ever witnessed. Even though we lost, it was still utterly enthralling from first match to last.


I still say the Poms cheated with that whole mint thing. They were getting ridiculous swing, and it was because of the mints in the mouth, im sure of it.

Every Aussie I know – all four of them – agree that that was the best, most intense and most exciting Test series they’d ever seen. Fair play.

Naturally I agree. In fact I'd go as far as saying it was some of the most exciting sport, full stop, that I've ever seen.

[Neil Young]

Who said it “needs it”?

Any sport is better with a bit of needle in it, though. Football, cricket, snooker, boxing, whatever. Added intensity, pressure and the rest of it. It raises the stakes. This surely goes without saying.

I disagree.

There is a lot of needle and pressure in games between Liverpool and Manchester United but they're usually crap matches.

There's a lack of respect between the two teams and this where some Indian and Australian players appear to have crossed the line in this series.

[Harv]

Every Aussie I know – all four of them – agree that that was the best, most intense and most exciting Test series they’d ever seen. Fair play.

Naturally I agree. In fact I'd go as far as saying it was some of the most exciting sport, full stop, that I've ever seen.

It was mate. Absolutely unreal.

I would never really say cricket is exciting...but that was. I just watch it because you have too really If you dont watch the cricket here in summer you're ****ed.

At my work we would all be up all night watching the cricket and come in the next morning knackered....but buzzing because it was so good.

Cant wait till the re-match

[Sarb]

when has he "told" on anyone? He just said Bahji was a cock....which he clearly is. Does anyone even debate this fact? Bhaji is an absolute cunt of a cricketer, talented, yes, but as annoying as they get.

im finished on this discusion....its going nowhere

Thank you for your wonderful insights on the failings of Bhajji. Don't be offended if I don't accept them.

I'd say Symonds, Ponting, Hayden and Clarke are cocks of the highest order. Talented cricketers but personalities of a buch of pricks.

I'm also finished on this discussion...its going nowhere.

Chakde India!

[Shaggy]

I think you're wrong.

There is a lot of needle and pressure in games between Liverpool and Manchester United but they're usually crap matches.

There's a lack of respect between the two teams and this where some Indian and Australian players appear to have crossed the line in this series.

You see I think you’re wrong.

When was the last time there was ANY needle in a Liverpool-United game??? They’re nearly always dull, passionless affairs that have the life strangled out of them…although by what, I’m not sure. Certainly not needle.

The last time one of these games had any needle was the last time it was exciting – when Cole got sent off for booting Rigobert, and Redknapp and Beckham squared up to each other.

Since then they've been stale, boring affairs bereft of needle.

The greatest tennis games had needle – Borg v McEnroe, McEnroe v Connors. It’s the same in golf, snooker, cricket – although I accept that in football, added needle can stifle a game.

[Neil Young]

You see I think you’re wrong.

When was the last time there was ANY needle in a Liverpool-United game??? They’re nearly always dull, passionless affairs that have the life strangled out of them…although by what, I’m not sure. Certainly not needle.

The last time one of these games had any needle was the last time it was exciting – when Cole got sent off for booting Rigobert.

The greatest tennis games had needle – Borg v McEnroe, McEnroe v Connors. It’s the same in golf, snooker, cricket – although I accept that in football, added needle can stifle a game.

I had already amended my opening comment which was unnecessarily aggressive.

I don't remember Borg and Connors or McEnroe having slanging matches on court or in the media so I think the comparison is a little wonky to say the least.

Like I say, it seems very immature. You've only got to look at the level of debate on this thread to see it doesn't really do cricket any favours whatsoever.

[Shaggy]

I had already amended my opening comment which was unnecessarily aggressive.

I don't remember Borg and Connors or McEnroe having slanging matches on court or in the media so I think the comparison is a little wonky to say the least.

But they didn't like each other and everyone knew it. They didn't need to have an on-court row to demonstrate that.

This particular episode between the Indians and Aussie IS immature and, as I said, neither party has emerged with any credit. However, I think this is mainly to do with the off-pitch crap that's taken place throughout. The on-field needle has added to the games, IMO, but the post-match ****e is totally unnecessary and, I agree, immature.

[Neil Young]

But they didn't like each other and everyone knew it. They didn't need to have an on-court row to demonstrate that.

This particular episode between the Indians and Aussie IS immature and, as I said, neither party has emerged with any credit. However, I think this is mainly to do with the off-pitch crap that's taken place throughout. The on-field needle has added to the games, IMO, but the post-match ****e is totally unnecessary and, I agree, immature.

Needles [sic] to say, I haven't been watching it.

I hope the IPL isn't messed up by it though. Come on Mumbai!!!!

[Harv]

Thank you for your wonderful insights on the failings of Bhajji. Don't be offended if I don't accept them.

I'd say Symonds, Ponting, Hayden and Clarke are cocks of the highest order. Talented cricketers but personalities of a buch of pricks.

I'm also finished on this discussion...its going nowhere.

Chakde India!

Touchy, touchy

Ponting...yeah i can see why he would be considered a bit of a prick.
Symonds...until this racism stuff i dont think anyone would of thought badly of him.
Hayden....he's a great bloke. Definitely not a cock
Clarke...he's not a cock. 'Pup' is a top little bloke.

1 out of 4 aint bad

Cmon though, Bhaji is a absolute prick mate. Ganguly too. Ishant is becoming one too...the rest seem ok though.

Why cant they all be as lifeless as VVS