Haye v Macarinelli - can't wait !!

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The Macca-rena

[Shaggy]

[andyinswinton]

Hope Haye cleans up in the Heavyweight division now.

With whats out there at the moment, he has got every chance to. He was impressive last night but I've never really rated Maccarineli that highly. Two rounds was quicker than I thought it would be.

[Tee]

The Macca-rena

[kurtangle01]

Frank Warren has to take some blame here for Enzo being so woefully under perpared for a fighter of Haye's stature, all his fighters play it safe and always will do. They all have a ton of bums, muppets, school teachers, mechanics and binmen on their records... and any real opponent is hand-picked from a lower division.

Enzo's 'firepower' was against C-class opponents - wheras Haye's ko's came against unbeaten world contenders and the belt holder himself.

What we witnessed last night was Fwank believing his own fairytales.

You cannot acclimatise to a fighter of Haye's calibre by fighting BUMS in your back yard. Macc's biggest name to date was Braithwaite, a kid who'd been inactive for 2 years and that was a KO loss to Guilerrmo Jones... Guilerrmo himself was a fighter lined up to fight Macc but rejected by the British Board for being too unsuitable and a mismatch.

For Warren to hint at Macc 'dusting himself down and taking on the Mormecks, Bell's and USS Cunnigham's of the division' is make believe because on last nights evidence and the poor opposition he's faced in the past he's a level or two below being world class.

As soon as I saw Macc pausing and retreating in the first round I thought his arse had fell out - he was scared to commit a jab for fear of what Haye could do to him at any second.

Last night we witnessed what happens when you protect a fighter and pad his record.... don't be remotely surprised to see Khan get his head removed at world level when he meets a skilled operator who can bang.

[Joe King]

Khan needs to get away from Warren. He is an absolute cunt. I'm sure De La Hoya would be interested.

[the rev leeroy brown]

Khan needs to get away from Warren. He is an absolute cunt. I'm sure De La Hoya would be interested.

amir khan???

he's a cunt too so perfect couple i think.

[Taffy]

Enzo got well and truly spanked by that punch didn't he!

For me, it was always going to be down to that one big, clean punch to win it. Enzo got one in early but Haye took it well, whereas Haye's cracker was too much for Enzo and it was over.

As they said on tv, Enzo should have taken the count to regroup, but I do feel Haye would have been too powerful for him in the end.

I do feel Enzo can get back the belt once Haye steps up as, from what I know of the division, there isn't that much out there that will do a Haye on Enzo again.

As regards Haye, yes he will do well at heavy when he steps up, but my fear for him there is that the guys there will be much bigger so how will he cope?! He will have speed to his advantage but the power will be bigger than what he's been used to, and I have my reservations that he can go on to be a long-time world champ at heavy despite the lack of real quality in the division at present. I hope he proves me wrong though!

[Imy]

Frank Warren has to take some blame here for Enzo being so woefully under perpared for a fighter of Haye's stature, all his fighters play it safe and always will do. They all have a ton of bums, muppets, school teachers, mechanics and binmen on their records... and any real opponent is hand-picked from a lower division.

Enzo's 'firepower' was against C-class opponents - wheras Haye's ko's came against unbeaten world contenders and the belt holder himself.

What we witnessed last night was Fwank believing his own fairytales.

You cannot acclimatise to a fighter of Haye's calibre by fighting BUMS in your back yard. Macc's biggest name to date was Braithwaite, a kid who'd been inactive for 2 years and that was a KO loss to Guilerrmo Jones... Guilerrmo himself was a fighter lined up to fight Macc but rejected by the British Board for being too unsuitable and a mismatch.

For Warren to hint at Macc 'dusting himself down and taking on the Mormecks, Bell's and USS Cunnigham's of the division' is make believe because on last nights evidence and the poor opposition he's faced in the past he's a level or two below being world class.

As soon as I saw Macc pausing and retreating in the first round I thought his arse had fell out - he was scared to commit a jab for fear of what Haye could do to him at any second.

Last night we witnessed what happens when you protect a fighter and pad his record.... don't be remotely surprised to see Khan get his head removed at world level when he meets a skilled operator who can bang.

Agree with most of that except the Amir Khan part.

I do think he has power and skill, his amateur background shows this to a point. He does need to start fighting better oppenent and certainly tell Warren to do one.

[Joe King]

Calzaghe still does not rate Haye

Enzo Calzaghe says he still does not rate David Haye, who was crowned undisputed cruiserweight champion after beating Enzo Maccarinelli on 9 March.

The fight at London's O2 Arena was stopped in the second round after Haye floored Swansea's Maccarinelli.

But the Welshman's coach said: "I think the same of Haye as I did before. If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy, he would have destroyed him.

"Hopefully we can get Enzo back in ring at the beginning of June."

Haye's win ended Calzaghe's run of 28 undefeated world title fights as a coach, but he says the 27-year-old Maccarinelli has learnt his lesson.

"He has come to terms with it," said Calzaghe. "There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again.

"A defeat doesn't have to be the end, it could be the beginning of your life. He wasn't hurt technically.

"I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war. There is no physical damage like there would have been in a long battle. The only thing hurt is his pride.

"All this said, Haye did nothing for me to change my views on him. It wasn't his performance that counted it was Enzo's performance. He was only as good as Enzo made him look.

"He answered no questions to me. He only threw four punches himself a round. Four whole punches.

"You can't judge what Haye is all about from that fight. It took him five big straight rights to deck Enzo.

"Now you think he is going to be fighting 17-stone guys [by moving up to heavyweight division]. It will take a lot more to put them down."

"He won fair and square but let's not get carried away because Enzo underperformed."

Calzaghe said there could be lots of reasons why Maccarinelli lost the fight but backed him to bounce back.

"It wont be hard to get Enzo over this," said Calzaghe. "He's a very positive character.

"He believes in his ability and he won't blame anyone. He knows a true Enzo would have done a job on this guy.

"He will be back. He had a bad turn, he's licked his wounds and he'll come back harder, stronger and better... and we'll be ready to rumble with Enzo again.

"We'll give him a 10-rounder to start with to dust the cobwebs off and then we'll get him straight back fighting for a world title."

Sour methinks. The donkey was taken to school by the Playboy.

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Enzo Calzaghe says he still does not rate David Haye, who was crowned undisputed cruiserweight champion after beating Enzo Maccarinelli on 9 March.

The fight at London's O2 Arena was stopped in the second round after Haye floored Swansea's Maccarinelli.

But the Welshman's coach said: "I think the same of Haye as I did before. If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy, he would have destroyed him.

"Hopefully we can get Enzo back in ring at the beginning of June."

Haye's win ended Calzaghe's run of 28 undefeated world title fights as a coach, but he says the 27-year-old Maccarinelli has learnt his lesson.

"He has come to terms with it," said Calzaghe. "There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again.

"A defeat doesn't have to be the end, it could be the beginning of your life. He wasn't hurt technically.

"I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war. There is no physical damage like there would have been in a long battle. The only thing hurt is his pride.

"All this said, Haye did nothing for me to change my views on him. It wasn't his performance that counted it was Enzo's performance. He was only as good as Enzo made him look.

"He answered no questions to me. He only threw four punches himself a round. Four whole punches.

"You can't judge what Haye is all about from that fight. It took him five big straight rights to deck Enzo.

"Now you think he is going to be fighting 17-stone guys [by moving up to heavyweight division]. It will take a lot more to put them down."

"He won fair and square but let's not get carried away because Enzo underperformed."

Calzaghe said there could be lots of reasons why Maccarinelli lost the fight but backed him to bounce back.

"It wont be hard to get Enzo over this," said Calzaghe. "He's a very positive character.

"He believes in his ability and he won't blame anyone. He knows a true Enzo would have done a job on this guy.

"He will be back. He had a bad turn, he's licked his wounds and he'll come back harder, stronger and better... and we'll be ready to rumble with Enzo again.

"We'll give him a 10-rounder to start with to dust the cobwebs off and then we'll get him straight back fighting for a world title."

Sour methinks. The donkey was taken to school by the Playboy.

Read that on ESB a couple of nights back. What a bitter bitter cunt Calzaghe is.

[Darth Marty]

bitter cunt or born winner.

No one can accurately predict what would have happened over a longer fight, personally I think Haye would have still won but who knows?

Calling such a good coach a bitter cunt is harsh in my opinion as what he said is kindof true.

Still, Haye deservedly won and he will go on to bigger and better things whilst Maccarinelli has to rebuild his career, punishment enough methinks.

[Red Chilli]

bitter cunt or born winner.

No one can accurately predict what would have happened over a longer fight, personally I think Haye would have still won but who knows?

Calling such a good coach a bitter cunt is harsh in my opinion as what he said is kindof true.

Still, Haye deservedly won and he will go on to bigger and better things whilst Maccarinelli has to rebuild his career, punishment enough methinks.

How can he criticise Haye after that "fight".
He literally gubbed the life out of Macarinelli.

The comment "He only threw 4 punches a round" is ridiculous, the fight didn't even last 2 rounds, that's all it took

Sorry, he may be a good coach, but he is a bitter bitter loser

[Shaggy]

Enzo Calzaghe says he still does not rate David Haye, who was crowned undisputed cruiserweight champion after beating Enzo Maccarinelli on 9 March.

The fight at London's O2 Arena was stopped in the second round after Haye floored Swansea's Maccarinelli.

But the Welshman's coach said: "I think the same of Haye as I did before. If Enzo went 12 rounds with the guy, he would have destroyed him.

"Hopefully we can get Enzo back in ring at the beginning of June."

Haye's win ended Calzaghe's run of 28 undefeated world title fights as a coach, but he says the 27-year-old Maccarinelli has learnt his lesson.

"He has come to terms with it," said Calzaghe. "There's no one to blame but himself. He won't do that again.

"A defeat doesn't have to be the end, it could be the beginning of your life. He wasn't hurt technically.

"I'd rather it have gone that way than him been involved in a 12-round war. There is no physical damage like there would have been in a long battle. The only thing hurt is his pride.

"All this said, Haye did nothing for me to change my views on him. It wasn't his performance that counted it was Enzo's performance. He was only as good as Enzo made him look.

"He answered no questions to me. He only threw four punches himself a round. Four whole punches.

"You can't judge what Haye is all about from that fight. It took him five big straight rights to deck Enzo.

"Now you think he is going to be fighting 17-stone guys [by moving up to heavyweight division]. It will take a lot more to put them down."

"He won fair and square but let's not get carried away because Enzo underperformed."

Calzaghe said there could be lots of reasons why Maccarinelli lost the fight but backed him to bounce back.

"It wont be hard to get Enzo over this," said Calzaghe. "He's a very positive character.

"He believes in his ability and he won't blame anyone. He knows a true Enzo would have done a job on this guy.

"He will be back. He had a bad turn, he's licked his wounds and he'll come back harder, stronger and better... and we'll be ready to rumble with Enzo again.

"We'll give him a 10-rounder to start with to dust the cobwebs off and then we'll get him straight back fighting for a world title."

Sour methinks. The donkey was taken to school by the Playboy.

[Imy]

How the frick did they decipher that from the way he talks? All i seem to have understood from the post match interview was that Macrenelli did not follow the plans and he used a swear word to describe that.