Formula One 2008

[Harv]

that was a great finish

[Endless Dream]

Ok this is an absolute joke, the fact remains even if Hamilton broke the rules (which I don't think he did) he shouldn't have been demoted - let's rewind a few weeks ago Massa breaks the rules and what happens there ooo a measly fine it's absolutely ridiculous and no one can argue that there's a clear bias towards Ferrari!!

[EST_1892]

That is an absolute joke. Saw nothing wrong with those last few laps. Nothing that I havn't seen Schumacher doing week in week out when he was 'racing'.

The worst and most blatent incident was at the very start when Kimi nearly shoved his own team mate Massa off the road.

Does every sport have sort sort of British bias these days?

[Leyton388]

Well well well Ferrari crash out so go moaning to the FIA and bang lewis put back two places and a Ferrari handed the win. F1 is so ****ing bent it is a joke. Thats it for me now and if i was Lewis or any other driver i would seriously consider quitting it as it is obvious that there is bias towards Ferrari.

FFS EVEN CHARLIE WHITEHEAD SAID THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!!!!!

[Joe King]

Ferrari suck the FIA's dick

In the European GP we seen a pit stop accident yet no penalties to Ferrari.

[TheStig]

Great race, only to be spoilt by the stewards.... ridiculous.

Can understand why people take the piss out of this 'sport' now really.

[gerbin11]

This is no real shock. Ferrari have always had the FIA in their back pocket. The memorable '94 season proved that, when Schumacher drove into Hill when he had damaged his car, crippling Hills Williams and securing the World Title for Schumacher in a, you guessed it, a Ferrari.
A few years ago the constructors decided to try and form a break-away championship after being screwed by the FIA over television rights. The break away was lead by Mclaren. Only one team refused to this propesition and remained wit the FIA, you guessed it, Ferrari.
Since this Ferrari can do no wrong. Last race at Valencia, Massa made a dangerous pit manouvre, the same kind of incident in a GP2 race that weekend had resulted in a stop go penalty, this would have relegated Massa to second or third, what doeas he get a 10000 euro fine, no impact on the championship.
Yesterday I was not even slightly shocked to see a perfectly legal incident penalised by a penalty which effectively wiped 6 points off Hamilton's championship lead.

[Joe King]

This is no real shock. Ferrari have always had the FIA in their back pocket. The memorable '94 season proved that, when Schumacher drove into Hill when he had damaged his car, crippling Hills Williams and securing the World Title for Schumacher in a, you guessed it, a Ferrari.
A few years ago the constructors decided to try and form a break-away championship after being screwed by the FIA over television rights. The break away was lead by Mclaren. Only one team refused to this propesition and remained wit the FIA, you guessed it, Ferrari.
Since this Ferrari can do no wrong. Last race at Valencia, Massa made a dangerous pit manouvre, the same kind of incident in a GP2 race that weekend had resulted in a stop go penalty, this would have relegated Massa to second or third, what doeas he get a 10000 euro fine, no impact on the championship.
Yesterday I was not even slightly shocked to see a perfectly legal incident penalised by a penalty which effectively wiped 6 points off Hamilton's championship lead.

All very good points

[Harv]

he broke the rules.

You cant pass on a corner, even though he conceded the lead back to Kimi...he then overtook straight away. He got an advantage from it.

There is a bias towards Ferrari no doubt though.

[Joe King]

He was harshly done.

[TheStig]

This is no real shock. Ferrari have always had the FIA in their back pocket. The memorable '94 season proved that, when Schumacher drove into Hill when he had damaged his car, crippling Hills Williams and securing the World Title for Schumacher in a, you guessed it, a Ferrari.

Actually, Schumacher was in a Benetton in 1994.

he broke the rules.

You cant pass on a corner, even though he conceded the lead back to Kimi...he then overtook straight away. He got an advantage from it.

There is a bias towards Ferrari no doubt though.

He didn't, there's an excellent video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKMyFCaZy0

As you can see Hamilton wasn't in Raikkonen's slipstream for any reasonable amount of time for any advantage, and according to Mclaren Kimi was also going faster than Hamilton at the start/finish line.

[Harv]

Actually, Schumacher was in a Benetton in 1994.



He didn't, there's an excellent video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKMyFCaZy0

As you can see Hamilton wasn't in Raikkonen's slipstream for any reasonable amount of time for any advantage, and according to Mclaren Kimi was also going faster than Hamilton at the start/finish line.

yes, but he gained ground by cutting the corner.

If he had of avoided it, and gone back on the track...or tried too, he would of been alot further behind. He tried to pass, got squeezed out, and just went straight over the corner, he didnt even try to get back on the track.

I was a harsh penalty, but Lewis is not entirely an angel in this instance.

[gerbin11]

Actually, Schumacher was in a Benetton in 1994.



He didn't, there's an excellent video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKMyFCaZy0

As you can see Hamilton wasn't in Raikkonen's slipstream for any reasonable amount of time for any advantage, and according to Mclaren Kimi was also going faster than Hamilton at the start/finish line.

Apologies it was 1996 and it was Villeneuve he rammed into, he didn't succeed though and Villeneuve went on to get sufficient points to win the championship, Schumacher then taken out of the world championship standings ( this didn't really matter though as he had already lost it ). Such similar incidents, easy to get them mixed up.

I'm sure he was in a Ferrari in 1996

[gerbin11]

he broke the rules.

You cant pass on a corner, even though he conceded the lead back to Kimi...he then overtook straight away. He got an advantage from it.

There is a bias towards Ferrari no doubt though.

Find it difficult to see how he gained an advantage by slowing down sufficiently to allow an extreemly slow Ferrari through. Raikkonen just couldn't hack the wet conditions and was driving very slowly because of this he was weaving all over the track IN FRONT OF HAMILTON Hamilton just out braked him and passed, Raikkonen's inability to take any of the next few corners highlighted this.

[Scratch]

Find it difficult to see how he gained an advantage by slowing down sufficiently to allow an extreemly slow Ferrari through. Raikkonen just couldn't hack the wet conditions and was driving very slowly because of this he was weaving all over the track IN FRONT OF HAMILTON Hamilton just out braked him and passed, Raikkonen's inability to take any of the next few corners highlighted this.

So surely Lewis should have just sat back, made sure that he had conceded the position and any advantage gained, then got back past easily, rather than risking being sanctioned...bit naive really.

Still, he should win this year, the press can go wild, Damon Hill will be forgotten and life will go on!!