The Wrestling Thread

[MrShawnMichaels]

I bet Mr Michael's dying to let us know how great Hall and Nash were against Ink Inc. Hasn't the Knockout division gone down the pan at TNA? The only thing they really had against WWE and they've monumentally ****ed it up. Mr Anderson - who scripts his stuff? NO ONE, and I mean, NO ONE knows who is meant to be face and heel in this company. Shocking.

TNA are taping four weeks worth of Impact in the week. Raw tonight should see Danielson come out and beat The Miz but the WWE have been like TNA and constantly changing the booking and creative have been working overtime re-writing everything. More wrestling tonight as it's commercial less Raw as well as Buzz Aldrin!

[MrMichael]

Not really dying at all, I didn't watch it. I intend to download and watch most of it though some sounds horrid. I can't stand what they've done since Hogan came in, its gone from being glorified indy with some odd booking but great wrestling, to a pastiche of something a decade gone. They have by far the most interesting, talented roster imo, anyone with half a wrestling mind could book some incredible cards with fabulous in-ring action on them, but instead we get a whole load of nonsense and the occasional decent spot.

The women's division has been decimated, Kong, Melissa, Tara now, Hamada and Sarita never seen, its absurd. Abyssmania is utterly horrible, while Nigel is getting buried when he should be having 5* matches with Joe, AJ, Angle etc, I'm sick of Flair and Hogan dominating main event angles, Sting being booked on cards when he's injured, Ink Inc v NWO when the best tag teams in the world, beer money and MCMG are doing nothing, I could go on and on all day. Without even mentioning OJ either.

Anderson scripts his own stuff. Which is why he's been so damn good so far in TNA. Never rated him before, but the guy is solid enough in the ring and masterful at everything else. Biggest problem for him is the IZ being so smarky and cheering for whoever the **** they like. I do like what they're doing with Joe now, he's back to being a real monster, that musclebuster on Morgan from Impact was awesome, Morgan and Lethal have been good recently, and Kaz/Williams are boss in he x-div. Everything else is just a booking horror.

As for wwe, yeah, well, whatever. Talking about heels and faces, I see Orton's the new Austin???? Really? I liked Danielson's promo on NXt (what a joke of a show that has turned into), but they've now got one hit to get it right with him or he's the next funaki.

[MrShawnMichaels]

Bring back Scott D'Amore for booking. There was a time around 2005-06 where TNA PPV's were so awesome. Blow off matches were real blow off matches and the booking made absolute sense. Now, it's a bunch of pisspoor rehashed WCW crap. It's a roster which has reasonable depth but clearly they haven't established who's top card, middle and opening. They need some serious cuts and focus on a solid roster and push the promotion that way. Instead we see bull**** booking and constant illogical segments which mean sweet FA whilst they continue to mention that WWE is still the number one promotion. Does anyone know who that guy was who was meant to join TNA but turned his back at the airport?

They've turned Orton at the wrong time. He had this huge blow off with Legacy and that didn't go to plan at all which has affected him I guess. He doesn't have the mic skills of an Austin to perform that role particularly well. The dynamic between Orton and Edge is completely wrong - it should be the other way round.

NXT started brilliantly but soon as they seen the falling numbers, they thought '**** it, lets concentrate on who we're keeping'. Goofy challenges, inability to build characters, MATT STRIKER all helped this demise of a unique and at first intriguing show. Danielson is supposedly going to be repackaged. Dunno what that means.

[Bender]

Brett hart champion and virgil back as well .....**** wwe get more and more desperate each week

[johnly]

Brett hart champion and virgil back as well .....**** wwe get more and more desperate each week

Virgil Raw was a bit ****ty this week, apart from the opening segment with Bret/Jericho. The build for the PPV on that side hasn't been great. Smackdown has done a lot better. Rey and Punk should be a cracking match again, hopefully they'll drag this out a bit and have Rey part of the SES before getting his revenge.

Danielson should return as American Dragon - Bryan Danielson. If they let him off the leash he'll put on stellar performances. Put him in with Punk, Edge, Swagger, Jericho and of course Miz and he'll shine


TNA is just a joke right now. Apart from RVD like. Hogan has some heart problem, he's off for back surgery soon too

[MrShawnMichaels]

Raw was really good besides the goofy spoof commercials and some of the finishes. Some fine matches between Edge v Christian, DiBiase v Tatsu, Orton v Swagger. I didn't like the two DQ finishes, something I criticise TNA for doing. The Jericho/Miz/Hart stuff was good too, interesting to see what they do with the title next.

Danielson beat down on Michael Cole. It's about time someone did.

[MrShawnMichaels]

Gif of the week



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[MrMichael]

Haha. TBH I thought the Cole attack was a bit lame, I wanted him to choke Cole out or something, but the promo was epic and I marked for that bit with Regal and Punk. "Yup, he is better than you Miz" "yeah, by this much".

They might, just might, not **** this up after all.

I see Big Dave "retired". The industry will miss his botches.

Now when are they dumping guest hosts so its actually possible to watch raw again?


Oh, in TNA watch..... meh. Impact was solid, but really, get Hall, Nash, Sting, Hogan and Flair out of TNA, send Russo on a fact finding mission to the nearest war zone with Abyss to keep him company, and book some stuff that lets your talent define cutting edge in the industry rather than being a poor, non-pg parody of your competition. 15 years ago.

So, basically, same rant as always.

[Jayesh87]

Haha. TBH I thought the Cole attack was a bit lame, I wanted him to choke Cole out or something, but the promo was epic and I marked for that bit with Regal and Punk. "Yup, he is better than you Miz" "yeah, by this much".

They might, just might, not **** this up after all.

I see Big Dave "retired". The industry will miss his botches.

Now when are they dumping guest hosts so its actually possible to watch raw again?


Oh, in TNA watch..... meh. Impact was solid, but really, get Hall, Nash, Sting, Hogan and Flair out of TNA, send Russo on a fact finding mission to the nearest war zone with Abyss to keep him company, and book some stuff that lets your talent define cutting edge in the industry rather than being a poor, non-pg parody of your competition. 15 years ago.

So, basically, same rant as always.

After the rock hosts

[MrShawnMichaels]

Haha. TBH I thought the Cole attack was a bit lame, I wanted him to choke Cole out or something, but the promo was epic and I marked for that bit with Regal and Punk. "Yup, he is better than you Miz" "yeah, by this much".

They might, just might, not **** this up after all.

I see Big Dave "retired". The industry will miss his botches.

Now when are they dumping guest hosts so its actually possible to watch raw again?


Oh, in TNA watch..... meh. Impact was solid, but really, get Hall, Nash, Sting, Hogan and Flair out of TNA, send Russo on a fact finding mission to the nearest war zone with Abyss to keep him company, and book some stuff that lets your talent define cutting edge in the industry rather than being a poor, non-pg parody of your competition. 15 years ago.

So, basically, same rant as always.

This week was even better. Cole getting heat from the crowd 'Knock his head off' chant and serious boos. Again, Danielson shouldn't be feuding with announcers although the fight with The Miz at the end suggests he may still be facing him in the near future.

Big Dave retiring is the worst thing to happen since Michaels retiring. Dave was brilliant as a heel, wacky clothes, hilarious one liners and playing the coward heel role to a tee. Shame he has gone but the Celtic Warrior has stepped in as the number one heel - Sheamus

They still have guest hosts planned but they won't be booking matches. They'll doing their goofy skits and segments like this week's god awful Jon Lovitz segment which died on its arse with the guy and his glass eye. Speaking of guest hosts and The Rock, the one which he was planned for is the one I think the cast of the new A Team movie will be featuring including UFC Light Heavyweight Quinton Jackson - good one McMahon, doesn't know the competition enough. Rocky had some plans with promotion so couldn't make it unfortunately.

TNA, woof. Ever if I've seen a bad TV show. Scott Hall being arrested this week. When asked by police what his occupation was, he replied 'Unemployed'. At least he's ashamed of being associated with that cluster**** of a show. I was listening to an interview with Bruno Sammartino recently and he was saying you can't build a show around Hogan, Flair and he couldn't continue watching after three weeks. I can't blame him.

[MrMichael]

It was "kick his head in" I heard, old ROH chant that. Interesting the way Vince has allowed them to use the Indie angle with Danielson, I guess its great for the smarks and the kids won't care either way. As you say, he's far too good to be feuding with Michael Cole ffs, but its something. Looking forward to him taking the Miz to school.

Dave was a great role player indeed.... not much cop as a wrestler like, but point taken. Seumas has grown on me, though I wish they'd give him another move, the big boot is legit but perhaps they'll let him use that powerbomb variant now Batista is gone.

That Jon Lovitz bit was FAR worse than anything I've ever seen on TNA. OJ, Abyss and Scott Hall together couldn't produce such horrible tv. Its just god awful, get these people who have obviously never watch wrestling in their lives off your premier show. Save it for one offs when you can actually get the likes of The Rock, Ted DiBiase etc, people who make sense to have back on the show. Seriously, even give me hornswaggle over that ****.

TNA. Angle, AJ, RVD, Nigel, Anderson, Pope, Joe, BMI, MCMG, Kaz, Williams, Sarita, Hamada. Wrestlers I like to see over anyone on wwe now (with perhaps the exceptions of Punk & Danielson). Seriously, chuck in a few others like Daniels, Red, Morgan & LAX and you've got yourself a ppv card that has everything; a ton of young talent that can genuinely work and would put on an amazing show. Those ~20 guys (and girls) are why TNA mustn't fail... yet it still does in such an epic fashion almost every single week. Infuriating

[MrShawnMichaels]

It was 'kick his head in', my bad. I'm guessing at the next PPV, Fatal 4 Way or the one after, Danielson will be facing The Miz as Jericho and Barrett go for the tag titles in that four way match. For a guy like Danielson who has been in the indies for quite some time, he sure doesn't cut a promo like one. His promos and probably Wade Barrett's promos are a cut above the rest they have on NXT.

Jon Lovitz was worse than Orlando Jordan's O Zone? You've got to be kidding me? Khali coming out and dancing was hilarious but it die hugely and in titanic fashion at the end. But certainly not as bad as the ****e I've seen being dug up from TNA over the past couple of weeks.

What's happened to Jeff Hardy? The guys a serious goof on TNA. His promos are really **** now, he was better off getting them scripted and his entrance music is the most annoying thing ever. I'd say TNA have a better bunch of wrestlers, I'm trying to roll down a list for WWE of gifted performers: Morrison, Punk, Rey, Swagger, Edge, Jericho, Christian, Regal, Taker.

[johnly]

It was 'kick his head in', my bad. I'm guessing at the next PPV, Fatal 4 Way or the one after, Danielson will be facing The Miz as Jericho and Barrett go for the tag titles in that four way match. For a guy like Danielson who has been in the indies for quite some time, he sure doesn't cut a promo like one. His promos and probably Wade Barrett's promos are a cut above the rest they have on NXT.

Jon Lovitz was worse than Orlando Jordan's O Zone? You've got to be kidding me? Khali coming out and dancing was hilarious but it die hugely and in titanic fashion at the end. But certainly not as bad as the ****e I've seen being dug up from TNA over the past couple of weeks.

What's happened to Jeff Hardy? The guys a serious goof on TNA. His promos are really **** now, he was better off getting them scripted and his entrance music is the most annoying thing ever. I'd say TNA have a better bunch of wrestlers, I'm trying to roll down a list for WWE of gifted performers: Morrison, Punk, Rey, Swagger, Edge, Jericho, Christian, Regal, Taker.

This whole thing with Bryan is building up well. Hope the pay off is spectacular as expected.

Raw was poor, the roster in WWE is thinning badly. Botch-tista may have been awful in the ring but he was well over. Replacing that is hard especially when they continually bury new talent! Bret as GM I can live with, not sure how long it'll last though.

TNA is a joke right now. Bischoff wrote a cryptic message on his twitter, said "you gotta know when to say when" many are interpreting this as a sign he's off.

[Bender]

Wrestling is a joke .......

[johnly]

Wrestling is a joke .......

But it's still real to me dammit!!

Truthfully its terrible at the moment