Originally posted by oshea
as for hatton fighting baldomir...i don't think it'd be a good idea at this stage of his career. he'd be better looking elsewhere.
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i thought gatti looked good in the first few rounds and did hurt baldomir more than once throughout the 9 rounds. the KO actually came as a surprise to me because in between the 8th and 9th round baldomir looked tired. if he hadn't knocked gatti out in that round then he would have lost the fight on points IMHO.
as for hatton fighting baldomir...i don't think it'd be a good idea at this stage of his career. he'd be better looking elsewhere.Babel fanclub member # 4!!!
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And you can back this up how? Fair enough Gatti won the first round (and probably the eight) but as soon as he started trading with Baldomir the disparity in strength was obvious (and Baldomir appeared to have the quicker hands). Gatti was caught with the overhand right repeatedly and he was rocked several times in the fight. Even the punch stats support this, Baldomir threw more, was more accurrate and hit Gatti over a hundred times more.
When was Baldomir hurt? I remember Gatti hitting him with a solid right hand on the ropes near the end of round four, and Baldomir was straight after him. Gatti simply didnt have the power to hurt Baldomir - each time they traded punches, Gatti was the one who came out worse.Comment
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Cotto or Mayweather at Welterweight for Hatton?
I should think would be best advised to pick on someone his own size.Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'
"Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.
* After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legsComment
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mayweather would be nice, ricky would beat him IMHO, but cotto is the one i fear as a hatton fan. that guy is a full blown middleweight fighting at a lower weight by the looks of him. did you see him against mallignagi? he was HUGE!!!!! mayweather on the other hand is a blown up super featherweight. that would suit hatton i think because floyd hasn't really carried his power up in the weight that he's in now. although he does still posses the skills.Originally posted by ian rush
i have a feeling that it'll be urkal next now that gatti has lost. baldomir is out of the question at the moment.Babel fanclub member # 4!!!
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I think Hatton would out-work Cotto. I also don't believe Cotto's chin is the best either. He's been rocked a fair few times now. Hatton for me on this one.Originally posted by kurtangle01
Mayweather - if he boxed anything like he did against Gatti -would be too slick for Ricky IMO - and simply out box him. Hatton would be chasing shadows. Mayweather for me here.Liverpool born and bred.Comment
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Originally posted by Howard_lfc
you could have a point but i think that ricky is far better at getting on the inside than gatti so he could neutralise floyd effective hand speed. floyd is effective if fighters stand off him and allow him to fight his fight. ricky wouldn't let that happen IMO. you only have to look at how ragged floyd looked against zab judah in the early part of their fight when zab pressurised him, and pressurising opponents is ricky's best asset. the problem zab had was that his stamina faded after the 5h or 6th round. hatton has bags of stamina so wouldn't go the same way judah did.
i agree about cotto's chin but the guy is simply huge. if a fight was to happen with cotto then now is as good a time as any. both fighters are looking for an opponent for later in the year so it could be made.
i just have a feeling that cotto would be more of a risk than mayweather simply because of his size.Babel fanclub member # 4!!!
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Hatton would do well to stay away from Mayweather and trick Cotto into the ring with him.Originally posted by ian rush
As you say, Cotto's chin is suspicious and he lacks the technique to avoid a constantly coming forward Hatton.
I'd like to see how Mayweather would stand up against Margarito, but hes probably too smart to take that fight.Comment
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Originally posted by oshea
Jesus. First Mayorga and now Margarito. You love you some leather faced characters, huh? One Kermit does not a summer make.
Margarito's only chance against Floyd (taking a bizarre amount of flack here for a man of his record. The only man who ever looked like beating him was Castillo, who is a tremendous fighter lazily dismissed for his recent scales debacle) lies in the fact that Floyd don't like people up in his face. Which is all Margarito knows how to do. But let's not get carried away. Daniel Santos ain't no Roberto Duran, and the cut can't cover up the fact that he was rightfully beating Margarito.Comment
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You would think that Mayweather was a bum the way he gets talked about at times. The guy is top notch, has all the tools, and I suspect that if he ever gets dragged into a trading war, that he has the tools to deal with it quite easily. Margarito would be taken to the cleaners by himI don't hate people. I just feel better when they aren't around.
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Originally posted by Hollowman
There was no shame in losing to the bigger Santos at light middle, you know theres always "that" dude a good fighter can't beat.
Margarito offers everything Hatton does in a massive frame. It could be a legend fight, and at least Mayweather would have to work for it. Who else at welterweight is there?Comment
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Its crazy not to rate Mayweather as best pound for pound in the world, but I'm just not excited by the prospect of him beating up on DLH.Originally posted by Jaco_PastoriousComment
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Originally posted by oshea
You're right there. And a Floyd-Margarito fight has promise.
But let's not pretend Margarito is a world-beater. He's nicely nurtured this rep as the most avoided fighter in the division, but it's the Santos fight that shows his limitations. He's a big boy, but looked outgunned at 154. I think he has the same problem Hatton does - he'll never climb weights. For someone who looks like a light middleweight, that ain't too promising.
Floyd is class. Genius hands, and has that Jones-like Teflon defensive style. His problem is exactly what you said. There's nobody else out there for him at 147 other than Margarito, and he's not stepping up to fight the likes of Wright or Taylor anytime soon.
Now, Taylor. There's a fighter I got a lot of time for. And another one who takes undue criticism. Although I don't like his habit of going asleep between 7 and 10.Comment
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Floyd has another Jones trait too, he won't be getting in the ring with someone he knows can beat him.
Winky fought his fight the wrong way round, the ****ing pleb. If he sorts that mystery out, knowing now that he can take Taylors punch, he'll win the rematch.
You see Bernard is bored witless retired? Its fantasy stuff, but if Frank Warren could just sort that out...Comment
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Oh god. The Jones revisionism. Is this him ducking Collins? I know you don't mean Joe, because they are totally different generations.Comment
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Revisionism, jesus, I was quoting you - admittedly a stoned and drunk you, but still...Originally posted by Hollowman
Jones was great, but he didn't have wars and thats such a damn shame.Comment
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