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    Formula one title to be decided on wins not points, says FIA

    Wins will take precedence over points this season
    Hamilton would not have won 2008 title under new system

    guardian.co.uk
    , Tuesday 17 March 2009 14.03 GMT

    The FIA has agreed to award the formula one world drivers' championship to the driver with the most race wins from this season onwards. Under the new regulations, the rest of the standings, from second place to last, will still be decided on the current points system.

    If the new stipulations had been in effect last season, Felipe Massa and not Lewis Hamilton would have won the drivers' championship. The Brazilian driver won six races to Hamilton's five but the British driver ended the season on 98 points to Massa's 97.

    In the event of two or more drivers finishing with the same number of race wins, the title will go to the driver with the most points. The current scoring system — 10 points for a win, eight for second, six for third — remains intact. A proposal to change the points awarded to drivers finishing in first, second and third place to 12, nine and seven points was rejected by the FIA's world motor sport council. The constructors' championship will still be decided by points, rather than team wins.

    The proposal to hand precedence to wins over points was made by Bernie Ecclestone's Formula One Management, with an alternative option from the Formula One Teams' Association rejected by the FIA. The organisation did, however, dismiss Ecclestone's suggestion of gold, silver and bronze medals for the top three drivers in each race.

    Although the title would have ended up in different hands last season had the new rules been effect, that remains the only time this century that the drivers' championship would have been won by a different driver from the actual champion had wins been the deciding factor.

    The FIA has also agreed to introduce a voluntary budget cap from 2010 of £30m per two-car team. "As an alternative to running under the existing rules, which are to remain stable until 2012, all teams will have the option to compete with cars built and operated within a stringent cost cap," said the FIA in a statement. "To enable these cars to compete with those from teams which are not subject to cost constraints, the cost-capped cars will be allowed greater technical freedom."
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

    #2
    My single hope for the new Formula One season is now that a Ferrari driver is deprived of the title by this rule change.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #3
      Edited
      Last edited by Neil Young; 17-03-09, 07:54 PM. Reason: Unnecessary post really. :sigh:
      .
      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



      May the Lord bless this post.

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        #4
        That rule is made for Ferrari i will tell you now! F1 is a joke now

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          #5
          That rule really is bizarre. They are embarrassing themselves.
          I'm playing all the right notes. Not necessarily in the right order. I'll give you that, sunshine.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            Edited
            If you'd left that post up I would have agreed
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #7
              Alternatively they could have made the difference in points between coming first and second larger. I didnt see what the problem was before. Hamilton may have had less wins but he was more consistent over the course of he season so he won.

              The new rule essentially means you could have a super unreliable car that doesnt finish every race, but if you win with it more times that the other then you win the championship.
              Last edited by saveferris; 18-03-09, 01:35 PM.
              Quit your jibber jabber!!!

              Jermaine, you know the song Billie Jean...is it about the tennis player??

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                #8
                Originally posted by saveferris View Post
                Alternatively they could have made the difference in points between coming first and second larger.

                The new rule essentially means you could have a super unreliable car that doesnt finish every race, but if you win with it more times that the other then you win the championship.
                Anyone care to guess how this seasons Ferrari will perform?
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  #9
                  Testing seems to have thrown up some intriguing results, especially with the Brawn cars. But yes the rule does show of some the obvious Ferrari bias that exists within F1. Nothing new there though, but which driver only one can win after all, team politics may come into it.
                  Quit your jibber jabber!!!

                  Jermaine, you know the song Billie Jean...is it about the tennis player??

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dww View Post
                    If you'd left that post up I would have agreed


                    Other people seem to like it. I don't think I need to stomp over every thread expounding my point of view.
                    .
                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                    May the Lord bless this post.

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                      #11
                      Stupid rule although when a driver is in second, he will have to go for it rather than accept the points. Nothing wrong with the previous system. Hopefully this one doesnt last.

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                        #12
                        They just had the most exciting finish to a season in absolutely years, so why change the rules?? Bad move IMO.
                        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tee View Post
                          They just had the most exciting finish to a season in absolutely years, so why change the rules?? Bad move IMO.
                          This is why:

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                            #14
                            Brillant footage/moment

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                              #15
                              Jesus. They changed the points system so people couldn't run away with the title, and now they go back to an even worse system.

                              Massa only won one more GP than Hamilton last season because Hamilton was stripped of his win at Spa, and that was some Ferrari-fellating bull****. If this rule had been in place last year it would have been a disgrace.

                              You'll get the situation now where drivers who skid off or fall down the field somehow will drop out of races to save their engines rather than battle up to a top ten position. In fact, teams might as well only enter one car.

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