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    Armstrong may be out of Le Tour!!!!



    Feck!

    Cycling legend Lance Armstrong has fractured his collarbone in Spain's Vuelta Castilla y Leon and is a doubt for the Tour de France in July.

    The 37-year-old American was caught up in an incident about 12 miles from the finish in Baltanas and was taken to hospital for treatment.

    Armstrong will now fly to the US and meet medical experts to decide whether he needs surgery.

    "We'll go from there. I think for the Tour it's a very big problem," he said.

    Armstrong is scheduled to compete in the Giro d'Italia from 9-31 May, with the Tour de France running from 4-26 July.

    Astana team leader Johan Bruyneel was more optimistic, saying: "It's a fracture without complications and it should be a fast recovery."

    Television images showed Armstrong falling heavily on day one of the five-day race, before clutching his arm while sitting on the grass.


    It was a shame to lose Lance. We could see that he wanted to use this race as part of his preparations. It was a good chance for us to work together

    Armstrong's team-mate Alberto Contador
    "It happened just before the end, and everything happened very quickly," said Armstrong.

    "Two riders fell ahead of me. I tried to get past and I wasn't able to."

    And as he left Valladolid University Hospital, he added: "The collarbone is broken, and I have a little bit of road-rash abrasions.

    "I've never had this happen before; it's pretty painful. I feel really miserable."

    Astana Team doctor Pedro Celaya confirmed: "Lance suffered a fracture of the middle third of the right collarbone as well as some bruises on his right hip and arm."

    Speaking to the Astana website later on Monday, Armstrong added: "In 17 years as a pro I have been lucky to avoid one of the most common cycling injuries.


    606: DEBATE
    Can Armstrong recover in time for the Tour de France?
    "The crash has put my upcoming calendar in jeopardy but the most important thing for me right now is to get back home and rest up and begin my rehab."

    Armstrong had been racing alongside Astana team-mate Alberto Contador of Spain for the first time, with the pair vying to be team leader.

    "It was a shame to lose Lance," said Contador. "We could see that he wanted to use this race as part of his preparations. It was a good chance for us to work together.

    "Now only I can support him and wish him to recover as soon as possible in order to take the start on the Giro."

    The Texan retired in 2005 after winning the Tour de France for a record seventh time, but he announced a shock return last September saying he wanted to raise cancer awareness.

    A survivor of testicular cancer, he plans to compete in this year's Tour de France in July after beginning his comeback at the Tour Down Under in Australia in January.

    "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

    I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

    FatTony 24/08/09
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    #2
    Heard that this morning, bad news indeed!
    'The tide is very much in our court now.'

    Keegan

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      #3
      Cycling Weekly are reporting he may well make the Giro. He's having an operation intended to speed up the healing process and while he recovers he'll be able to ride on rollers/turbo. So, while his preparation may not be perfect, if the intention of going to the Giro always was to train for the Tour rather than actually compete for the win, then the injury causes disruption to his plan rather than an end to his chances in the Tour.

      I still don't see how he can hope to compete with Contador anyway.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        Cycling Weekly are reporting he may well make the Giro. He's having an operation intended to speed up the healing process and while he recovers he'll be able to ride on rollers/turbo. So, while his preparation may not be perfect, if the intention of going to the Giro always was to train for the Tour rather than actually compete for the win, then the injury causes disruption to his plan rather than an end to his chances in the Tour.

        I still don't see how he can hope to compete with Contador anyway        .
        Thing is, he is Lance Armstrong and he's got this knack for pulling through things, i think it'll be a lot closer but i'm hoping Lancey does make it an 8th!
        'The tide is very much in our court now.'

        Keegan

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          #5
          Originally posted by Carras_Shin_Pads View Post
          Thing is, he is Lance Armstrong and he's got this knack for pulling through things, i think it'll be a lot closer but i'm hoping Lancey does make it an 8th!
          Ha, well, I'm not I suppose but I can accept your argument - he's always been a pretty special rider even if he is 37 and hasn't ridden competitively for three years.
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          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post

            I still don't see how he can hope to compete with Contador anyway.
            I don't think he's expecting too though, he's said that he's there to raise awareness again and nobody should expect him to be challenging. He's stated that he's in a support role for Contador only.

            "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

            I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

            FatTony 24/08/09

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              #7
              You may be right but I can't help thinking Armstrong wouldn't have won seven Tours if he was the kind of person who was happy to work for Contador. Part of him must still want to win or at least he did when he was considering the comeback.

              Of course the good thing about this is I can't be proved wrong. If he goes for the win then I'm right - if he just plays the domestique role then it might be because he knows he can't win so I'm not wrong.
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              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                #8
                So, is this Lance chap good at peddling?
                https://www.needlesandgrooves.com/

                https://twitter.com/NeedlesNGrooves

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                  Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                  So, is this Lance chap good at peddling?
                  Has your dealer let you down?

                  Actually he's pretty good at pedalling.
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                  Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                    Has your dealer let you down?

                    Actually he's pretty good at pedalling.
                    Stop picking on the dyslexic
                    https://www.needlesandgrooves.com/

                    https://twitter.com/NeedlesNGrooves

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                      Stop picking on the dyslexic
                      I'm sorry, I thought you did it deliberately.

                      Anyway, being dyslexic isn't the same as being stoned.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                        I'm sorry, I thought you did it deliberately.

                        Anyway, being dyslexic isn't the same as being stoned.
                        That's just like, your opinion man.


                        I must say I'm surprised at the amount of respect that Armstrong is being afforded in this thread.

                        I've always considered his achievements greatly clouded by the drug allegations that hang over his sport. Call me a cynic but I find it difficult that anyone could come back from cancer and dominate his sport for such a prolonged period.

                        Do you all believe that Armstrong is clean? If he is then he's probably the only one in the field.
                        A humble guy with healthy desire.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by The Erectile Banana View Post
                          That's just like, your opinion man.


                          I must say I'm surprised at the amount of respect that Armstrong is being afforded in this thread.

                          I've always considered his achievements greatly clouded by the drug allegations that hang over his sport. Call me a cynic but I find it difficult that anyone could come back from cancer and dominate his sport for such a prolonged period.

                          Do you all believe that Armstrong is clean? If he is then he's probably the only one in the field.
                          A recent study in France on the hair samples of a range of professional athletes found that the proportion of cyclists testing positive for drugs on WADA's banned list was lower than the proportion of footballers.

                          I think it's possible he didn't take drugs. I also think it's possible he did. He avoided cancer treatments that would have impaired his lung capacity and he lost a lot of upper body mass which would also have improved his cycling and don't forget he was an excellent young rider before he became ill.

                          The simple thing is we don't know for sure either way. That's why I wish he hadn't come back - it just opens up the uncertainty again.
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



                          May the Lord bless this post.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                            A recent study in France on the hair samples of a range of professional athletes found that the proportion of cyclists testing positive for drugs on WADA's banned list was lower than the proportion of footballers.

                            I think it's possible he didn't take drugs. I also think it's possible he did. He avoided cancer treatments that would have impaired his lung capacity and he lost a lot of upper body mass which would also have improved his cycling and don't forget he was an excellent young rider before he became ill.

                            The simple thing is we don't know for sure either way. That's why I wish he hadn't come back - it just opens up the uncertainty again.
                            I find that difficult to believe given the apparent level of doping in cycling. Unless of course the cyclists have moved on to new exotic drug cocktails that are not yet on the WADA list.

                            I must admit that I don't know a huge deal about cycling but given what I know about Armstrong's circumstances and his links to teams that have become embroiled in drug scandals I find it very difficult to believe that he is completely clean.
                            A humble guy with healthy desire.

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                              #15
                              Completely clean or not I can't see him coming back to be Contador's understudy. He'll only come back for the win.

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