100 Push Up Challenge / Diet thread

[wiw]

Has Stephen Lee taught you nothing? Look I'm only doing it for 2 weeks cos I felt uncomfortably fat. After 2 weeks I'll be back on coffee and booze and whatever else but trying to eat breakfast..that's what screws me over

[FatTony]

Are you drinking lots of water Tony?

Yes, drinking more water, lots of glasses a day.

I'm on the treadmill and cycle to work several times a week and tonight on the way back I struggled with a lack of energy.

[Fierce]

Yes, drinking more water, lots of glasses a day.

I'm on the treadmill and cycle to work several times a week and tonight on the way back I struggled with a lack of energy.

I dont know why you're surprised! You're not eating any carbs and you've cut out all the fat that your body would use for energy, you cant expect to be able to function properly. If you are gonna cut out carbs (you really, genuinely shouldn't I promise) then you need to ensure that your body is getting what it needs. ESPECIALLY if you're training or just working out more

Carbs aside, you're not getting nearly enough fat. Protein is probably down also.

Brown rice, brown bread, brown pasta, potatoes (sweet potatoes are best), wholemeal cous cous etc etc

[DannyMan2006]

I agree with Fierce, the Atkins diet is ****e, not sure about a two week induction course mind. All you need to know about that diet is that the creator of it died of obesity. As Fierce says it will lose you weight, but due to health problems from taking the diet it can not last forever. And once you revert back to normal eating the weight piles back on, just like most fad diets.

As for experts, the only ones worth listening to say the same, that all fad diets are rubbish and should not be followed. What should be made are lifestyle changes that are simple to follow and can be carried on long term. Things like instead of having a doner kebab with loads of mayo on a saturday night, get a chicken shish kebab without the mayo. Or when going out on the lash head out an hour later or come home an hour earlier. If your already fairly healthy these changes are easy to make.

If you want a good kick start then do more exercise and drink more water. One tip recommended by most is to eat often but lighter during the day. Instead of having a big lunch, cut it down and eat some of it a couple of hours before dinner, or have it pre lunch at like mid morning (depending what hours you are awake). Spliting the meals up means you are still eating the same amount, but are increasing metabolism. This also covers snacking, as there's no need.

[Welhung]

Jeez Harv, You're giving people the impression u are athletic, and you know what you're talking about...

But you're correct. The Atkins is BOLLOCKS. I am an accredited practicing Dietitian....So I know.

Low carb is not the answer. People are so ****ing stupid sometimes and are always looking for the "magic pill" or "wand". In other words, the easy way out.

A diet with nothing but bacon, meat, cheese etc... = insane amounts of saturated fat = Heart Disease and constipation.

Your diet should be 50% carbs - good low GI carbs. Protein should make up roughly 20-30% and the other 20-30% should be fat (7% Saturated and the rest EFA's and poly and monounsaturated fats)

It is not rocket science. The reason people lose so much weight in the initial stages of a carb free diet is that glucose is a big ass molecule. When it leaves your body it draws water with it. All the fat cunts who lose that dramatic amount of weight in the first 2 weeks are losing WATER. Not fat. Get on a body composition machine to confirm it....I'm not lying.

Train hard - both cardio and weights. Not insanely though. Eat sensibly and in moderation. Lots of veges and whole grains. Lean meat and lots of fluid. Caffeine is ok, just not in excess. Keep the booze to a minimum as ethanol has almost as many kilojoules as Fat does.

Nuff said.

[FatTony]

Jeez Harv, You're giving people the impression u are athletic, and you know what you're talking about...

But you're correct. The Atkins is BOLLOCKS. I am an accredited practicing Dietitian....So I know.

Low carb is not the answer. People are so ****ing stupid sometimes and are always looking for the "magic pill" or "wand". In other words, the easy way out.

A diet with nothing but bacon, meat, cheese etc... = insane amounts of saturated fat = Heart Disease and constipation.

Your diet should be 50% carbs - good low GI carbs. Protein should make up roughly 20-30% and the other 20-30% should be fat (7% Saturated and the rest EFA's and poly and monounsaturated fats)

It is not rocket science. The reason people lose so much weight in the initial stages of a carb free diet is that glucose is a big ass molecule. When it leaves your body it draws water with it. All the fat cunts who lose that dramatic amount of weight in the first 2 weeks are losing WATER. Not fat. Get on a body composition machine to confirm it....I'm not lying.

Train hard - both cardio and weights. Not insanely though. Eat sensibly and in moderation. Lots of veges and whole grains. Lean meat and lots of fluid. Caffeine is ok, just not in excess. Keep the booze to a minimum as ethanol has almost as many kilojoules as Fat does.

Nuff said.

You sound like the man I need to speak too

I do 80/90 minutes cycling mosts days (3 to 4 times a week), and recently I've started to get back on the treadmill on my days off (30 minutes). From my calculations, I burning 1400-1600 calories when riding to work and 350 on the treamill.

I'm 6ft and around 12.5st and 34.

I do not eat processed food, I cook everything from scratch.

I find it confusing (the diet side of things, as some many sources contradict each other). My aim is to get my body fat down from around 20/22% to between 10 and 15%. Where I struggle is working out how much I should be consuming when cycling to not feel zapped, and how much is too much?

How many calories should I eat per day when cycling and how many when I'm not? I have a huge appetitie, always have and thats my problem.

If I lived on crap I could do it quite easily as all the information is on the pack (but processed food increases your risk of cancer) so this is where I get stuck.

Any sources you can recommend that are easy to read? I've read a few book but its always eat x percentage of carbs and x percentage of protein, fat etc which means nothing to me in the real world.

[Fierce]

You sound like the man I need to speak too

I do 80/90 minutes cycling mosts days (3 to 4 times a week), and recently I've started to get back on the treadmill on my days off (30 minutes). From my calculations, I burning 1400-1600 calories when riding to work and 350 on the treamill.

I'm 6ft and around 12.5st and 34.

I do not eat processed food, I cook everything from scratch.

I find it confusing (the diet side of things, as some many sources contradict each other). My aim is to get my body fat down from around 20/22% to between 10 and 15%. Where I struggle is working out how much I should be consuming when cycling to not feel zapped, and how much is too much?

How many calories should I eat per day when cycling and how many when I'm not? I have a huge appetitie, always have and thats my problem.

If I lived on crap I could do it quite easily as all the information is on the pack (but processed food increases your risk of cancer) so this is where I get stuck.

Any sources you can recommend that are easy to read? I've read a few book but its always eat x percentage of carbs and x percentage of protein, fat etc which means nothing to me in the real world.

Last time I offer you advice

Obviously this chap is far more knowledgeable than I, but I think he's basically confirming in an experts way what I was saying

So, in summary, screw you

[Matt]

Anyway I mostly get to the gym twice a week at lunchtimes and my workouts are 90% weights as if you put the effort in you burn as many calories as you would being stuck on a treadmill.

Eat plenty of protein. For anyone on a diet get on the Tuna Light Lunches from the supermarket. Around 250 calories each, packed with protein and a balance of other stuff to keep you going til you get home.

Protein repairs muscles and grows them so is VITAL. More muscle = faster metabolism = more efficiency when trying to burn off calories.

A pure cardio workout is fine to shed a few pounds but in the long run you lose as much muscle as fat and you'll have no metabolism.

[FatTony]

Last time I offer you advice

Obviously this chap is far more knowledgeable than I, but I think he's basically confirming in an experts way what I was saying

So, in summary, screw you

No, I agree with what you've said

My problem is how do you work out how much to eat in relation to how much exercise you do. I need an easy to read resource so when I'm cooking I can easily work out whats what.

I've been cycling and jogging for a long time and still have a layer of fat around my waist. I eat a lot, but I wouldn't say my diet is unhealthy.

I need something which is cheap and I can eat relentlessly without any side effects.

[FatTony]

Anyway I mostly get to the gym twice a week at lunchtimes and my workouts are 90% weights as if you put the effort in you burn as many calories as you would being stuck on a treadmill.

Eat plenty of protein. For anyone on a diet get on the Tuna Light Lunches from the supermarket. Around 250 calories each, packed with protein and a balance of other stuff to keep you going til you get home.

Protein repairs muscles and grows them so is VITAL. More muscle = faster metabolism = more efficiency when trying to burn off calories.

A pure cardio workout is fine to shed a few pounds but in the long run you lose as much muscle as fat and you'll have no metabolism.

Isn't it the case though that almost everyone consumes the required amount of protein and that the body can only absorb so much before it rejects it.

[Fierce]

No, I agree with what you've said

My problem is how do you work out how much to eat in relation to how much exercise you do. I need an easy to read resource so when I'm cooking I can easily work out whats what.

I've been cycling and jogging for a long time and still have a layer of fat around my waist. I eat a lot, but I wouldn't say my diet is unhealthy.

I need something which is cheap and I can eat relentlessly without any side effects.

Then my work here is done! Basically because I wouldn't have any idea about what quantities or anything more technical. I just know that since I changed the way I eat, I've lost weight and I look much healthier than I have done in years

Anyway I mostly get to the gym twice a week at lunchtimes and my workouts are 90% weights as if you put the effort in you burn as many calories as you would being stuck on a treadmill.

Eat plenty of protein. For anyone on a diet get on the Tuna Light Lunches from the supermarket. Around 250 calories each, packed with protein and a balance of other stuff to keep you going til you get home.

Protein repairs muscles and grows them so is VITAL. More muscle = faster metabolism = more efficiency when trying to burn off calories.

A pure cardio workout is fine to shed a few pounds but in the long run you lose as much muscle as fat and you'll have no metabolism.

Make it yourself. Regardless of how amazing they say it is for weight loss, its pre-prepared packaged stuff. It'll be processed and overly refined. Far better to take what they recommend and create it yourself

Spot on about the protein aspect though. And on the weights side of things, but I wouldn't totally neglect cardio work, maybe up the balance to 70/30 in favour of FREE WEIGHTS - massively more beneficial than machines

[Matt]

Isn't it the case though that almost everyone consumes the required amount of protein and that the body can only absorb so much before it rejects it.

I'm not sure mate to be honest but if you look at labels on food the recommended level of protein intake is 70g per day which isn't that easy to achieve unless you make a conscious effort.

Make it yourself. Regardless of how amazing they say it is for weight loss, its pre-prepared packaged stuff. It'll be processed and overly refined. Far better to take what they recommend and create it yourself

Spot on about the protein aspect though. And on the weights side of things, but I wouldn't totally neglect cardio work, maybe up the balance to 70/30 in favour of FREE WEIGHTS - massively more beneficial than machines

I don't disagree about making it yourself Si but it's a decent meal and it eliminates the time/effort factors of preparing from fresh.

You're right on the free weights too. Cardio-wise I've slacked off over winter but I'm getting back into road running now the weather's picked up.

Anyone on a weight loss programme should consider staged cardio training though i.e don't run for half an hour at the same speed on the same incline. It's good for endurance but that's about it.

Short, intense bursts of energy achieve the best results. E.g on a cross trainer do:

2mins Level 1
3mins Level 5
2mins Level 1
3mins Level 6
2mins Level 1

as an introduction - you'll feel it, trust me!

[Mike]

Situp crunches are a killer.

Lie down flat on your back, cross your feet and lift your legs in the air as vertical as you can. doing this will mean that your abs have nothing to aid them when doing the crunches, as the lower abdominal muscles contract with the leg muscles, so the crunches when done as mentioned above are using solely the abs muscles and nothing else.

then try and make your nose touch your legs while they are vertical if that makes sense. I do these and i got a six-pack in 2-3weeks by doing three sets of 30 each night.

hope you find it useful.

[Fierce]

I'm not sure mate to be honest but if you look at labels on food the recommended level of protein intake is 70g per day which isn't that easy to achieve unless you make a conscious effort.



I don't disagree about making it yourself Si but it's a decent meal and it eliminates the time/effort factors of preparing from fresh.

You're right on the free weights too. Cardio-wise I've slacked off over winter but I'm getting back into road running now the weather's picked up.

Anyone on a weight loss programme should consider staged cardio training though i.e don't run for half an hour at the same speed on the same incline. It's good for endurance but that's about it.

Short, intense bursts of energy achieve the best results. E.g on a cross trainer do:

2mins Level 1
3mins Level 5
2mins Level 1
3mins Level 6
2mins Level 1

as an introduction - you'll feel it, trust me!

That type of cardio is a killer, but defo worth it. I cant remember the name of that type of workout but I used to do a program when I was a gym goer that uses that style. Hard work!

Situp crunches are a killer.

Lie down flat on your back, cross your feet and lift your legs in the air as vertical as you can. doing this will mean that your abs have nothing to aid them when doing the crunches, as the lower abdominal muscles contract with the leg muscles, so the crunches when done as mentioned above are using solely the abs muscles and nothing else.

then try and make your nose touch your legs while they are vertical if that makes sense. I do these and i got a six-pack in 2-3weeks by doing three sets of 30 each night.

hope you find it useful.

Hmm, but how old are you mate? About 20 if I remember rightly?? Try it when your 30, guarantee it wont happen in 2-3 weeks!!!

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[Liverpool]

A can of coke every day, bacon & egg butties two or three times a week, big sandwiches on white bread every day, about five pizzas a week, no exercise. I’m naturally a thin lad, 6’1 but I weigh nearly 14 stone.

Am I going to die before I hit 40?

Sounds like me the last 18 months.

Although ive never ate "well" but when I wanted to play football for a career I ate more carefully but now I dont care.