Thank god for F1...

[Neil Young]

Over the course of a season, it almost always comes down to decisions like this. Lewis could well have won last season but for a couple of small errors of judgement.

Really? Over the course of a season it's not the best driver or even the best car - it's down to who gets a couple more pit stops timed well?

That's bonkers.

[G]

Really? Over the course of a season it's not the best driver or even the best car - it's down to who gets a couple more pit stops timed well?

That's bonkers.

Not really.Its nearly always the best car that wins,providing one of the best drivers is in it.

2007 best car was Mclaren,but Ferrari won it cos both Mclarens took points off each other all season.Can see the same happening again if the Mclarens have the best car next season.Only reason this season was so tight was because both Redbulls took points off each other plus had reliability issues

[Kenneth]

Really? Over the course of a season it's not the best driver or even the best car - it's down to who gets a couple more pit stops timed well?

That's bonkers.

The fact that there are two drivers with the same car in each team is pretty significant.

[Neil Young]

The fact that there are two drivers with the same car in each team is pretty significant.

How?

Red Bull had the advantage of having two cards to play and Ferrari decided to mark Webber (no pun intended) rather than Vettel. But it was still down to a call about when to pit.

So the world championship was really lost by the Ferrari race strategist.

It seems a weird to me that someone so invisible should have such a massive effect on the destination of the championship.

But I don't follow Formula 1 so I've probably missed something important in which case I apologise.

[Pablo]

Thank God for F1. It does a great job of making other sports seem more exciting.

[saj]

Thank God for F1. It does a great job of making other sports seem more exciting.

Even Golf?

[Pablo]

Even Golf?

**** off. Golf's a majestic sport.

[Daniel 7]

How?

Red Bull had the advantage of having two cards to play and Ferrari decided to mark Webber (no pun intended) rather than Vettel. But it was still down to a call about when to pit.

So the world championship was really lost by the Ferrari race strategist.

It seems a weird to me that someone so invisible should have such a massive effect on the destination of the championship.

But I don't follow Formula 1 so I've probably missed something important in which case I apologise.

Its one of the elements that had a bearing on the outcome of the race. Another was the fact that Webber pitted early because he thought his tyres were going off - Vettel stayed out longer and the tyres came back to him again which meant he could go longer and not get caught up behind slower cars like Webber and Alonso did.

The cars themselves are difficult to pass because of the aerodynamics of the car in front causing disturbances in the air flow, another reason why Webber and Alonso struggled to pass slower cars - they couldn't get close enough without wrecking their tyres due to loss of grip.

The drivers in front of the challengers drove brilliant defensive races - Petrov never put a foot wrong under huge pressure, kind of like a small team's goalie stopping a better team's attack (think that Burnley keeper v Man Utd last season).

Like I said before - there are conspiracies that Webber was sacrificed in the race for Vettel to win the championship. Ferrari were preoccupied with Webber so reacted to his pitstop, which eliminated him and Alonso for Vettel to take the title. Half the game is mathematical prediction, so they would have played out that strategy, no doubt.

There's loads of facets that can make or break a race. Hamilton struggled to get past Kubica - he would have pressured Vettel at the end of the race if he'd barrelled past, but he was stuck. Had that happened, who's to say Vettel wouldn't have crashed out from the pressure, or the car would have broken from being maxed out all the time. It happened a few times for Red Bull over the season.

Its boss F1, I love it.

[Baracus]

Even Golf?

**** off. Golf's a majestic sport.

Could not have putt it better myself

[Kenneth]

**** off. Golf's a majestic sport.

It's a game for people without the balls or fitness to do proper sports. Like ultimate frisbee.

[Neil Young]

I'm sure golf is a decent game to play - so many enjoy it it can't be bad.

I don't understand the enjoyment of professional golf though. Everything about it is pretty objectionable to me - the hype, the money, they businessmen, the way it ruins the countryside, the snobbery, the stupid clothes, the hype, Nick Faldo, the money, the hype, Peter Alliss, the Ryder Cup, the racists, the hype, the silly hats, the daft rules, the hype, Sky Sports, Roy Hodgson, David Cameron, the hype, the money, Tiger Woods' endorsements, the private jets, the sponsorship of events because the chairman likes golf even though it has f*ck all to do with the brand, the hype...

But I did enjoy the cant that was talked about Tiger Woods. He's a role model for kids? Yeah I bet 10-year olds all over the world are now not practising their putting because they're all too busy f*cking cocktail waitresses in motels.

[Fredo]

But I did enjoy the cant that was talked about Tiger Woods. He's a role model for kids? Yeah I bet 10-year olds all over the world are now not practising their putting because they're all too busy f*cking cocktail waitresses in motels.

I know you despise moralists Neil so don't do one on us please.

[saj]

**** off. Golf's a majestic sport.

Posh git

[Neil Young]

I know you despise moralists Neil so don't do one on us please.

OK Nigel.

[Vermilion]

Bernie Eccleston been mugged in London, him and his missus, he recieved a head injury, muggers recieved over £200 grands worth of jewelry.