The 2010 PGA Championship

[Reece]

Anyone watching this? Haven't seen any of the previous days but have stuck it on now as I need something calm to help sooth my hangover.

Rory McIlroy just one shot off the lead at the moment. Would be great if he could win it

[red g]

that will be a no then

Dustin Johnson, clear by 1 on the 18th.

[red g]

dustin johnson, grounded the club on the last and looks like a 2 shot penalty.

Poor ******* first the us open, now this.

so Kaymar and Bubba for play off.

[Liverpool]

thats not a bunker, very harsh imagine he sunk the putt and celebrated

[red g]

thats not a bunker, very harsh imagine he sunk the putt and celebrated

was just thinking that, now that would have been funny.....and the trophy would have hadhalf his name etched to!!

[Liverpool]

terrible decision

[Shaggy]

****ing scandalous that. I don't give a **** what their rules say, no way was that a ****ing bunker. Been a crazy final round, great entertainment.

[Harv]

If i was Dustin Johnson i'd be polishing my shotgun.

He was absolutely robbed, no ****ing way was that a bunker. He's standing on grass FFS!!!

And if its a bunker...why the **** are the crowd standing all over it???

[Hollowman]

To be fair to the PGA rules official, course rules are course rules, and it's not like Johnson and all the players hadn't been made aware. Quite aside from the notices put up in the players' areas there was a lot of media coverage of the extraordinary number of 'bunkers' on the course.

Whether or not the course should technically consider all sanded areas bunkers is another issue. But once they have decided that, then it is the players' responsibility to know the rules of the course they are playing. It's not so very different from the rule on the Old Course that doesn't allow you relief from any road or track (except in the case of Whistling Straits the rule is more prone to lead to strokes penalties). If he had done this on any of the first three rounds there wouldn't really be a fuss. The controversy comes from the context of him raping himself out of the tournament playoff on the 72nd hole. Between himself and his caddie, one of them really should have had the thought. Call the ref over and ask if you don't know. It's the final hole. Get a ruling and make sure you know where you stand.

[Shaggy]

Can't really argue with that but the rule is a ****ing ass. A complete ass. Johnson would've been totally pumped playing that last hole, on the verge of his first major so soon after the US Open calamity...no wonder he wasn't thinking clearly. And when he's playing out of something that so clearly is not a bunker, I can hardly blame him. Shambolic rule if you ask me.

[Hollowman]

Yeah, but whether the rule is shambolic or not is a completely different issue. Just because you think the offside rule is shambolic doesn't mean you are robbed every goalhanger's score you rack up.

This is what the rules supplement said - "Bunkers – designed and built as sand bunkers will be played as bunkers (hazards), whether or not they have been raked. This will mean that many bunkers positioned outside of the ropes, as well as some areas of bunkers inside the ropes, close to the rope line, will likely include numerous footprints, heel prints and tyre tracks during the play of the Championship. Such irregularities are a part of the game and no free relief will be available from these conditions,"

That was hung up everywhere and a fresh copy was given to every player before every round. And Dustin Johnson claims he didn't feel it was necessary to read it? The notice is completely clear and unambiguous in every way. If there is sand there, it is a bunker. It even says there might be footsteps etc in it and it might not be within the ropes. What more does he want? A special "Dustin Official" following round the course notifying him of the rules he didn't think it preudent to make himself aware of just before he violates them?

"I didn't know," is never an acceptable excuse. Especially when you were handed every opportunity to know. He only has himself to blame.

[Shaggy]

Fair enough. But yeah, it is a different issue and my feeling over that issue is that it's a ****ing shambles. I would never expect 'free relief' out of one of those grassy/sandy banks/dunes, but nor would I expect to not be allowed to ground the club. The rule is an ass.

[Hollowman]

Balls. **** Dustin Johnson.

The bigger story to me was the reaction of the American crowd, heckling and abusing Kaymer during the play off, the cunts. What a young player he is. I only hope he goes on to win more so his major victory doesn't become "the one Dustin Johnson was robbed of." Even though, given the way he played the 18th on the final day, coupled with his spectacular collapse at the US Open, Johnson was as likely to use any play off as a grand exercise in public pant-****ting as actually winning the thing. Can't wait to see how he deals with the pressures of Ryder Cup golf.

American disqualified for sodomizing self with club during crucial Ryder Cup singles rubber. Claimed: I didn't know I couldn't so that.

[Shaggy]

Kaymer is ace - the Ryder Cup team looks so much stronger than theirs.

[PTP]

it was extremley harsh and a **** up of epic proportions by both johnson and the tournement officials....

Firstly the officials, they should have thought about it - if they are going to have thousands of people standing in a bunker/hazard all weekend, you can't expect a player to play out of it. Either define those areas as g.u.r or don't make it a hazard, so you can just play it normally.

If thats not the case, then it's a bit ****ing harsh, to have a bunker/hazard in play that has had thousands walking through it all week. ridiculous really that they classed that as bunker...but they did soo....

Also - the official, could have and probably should have flagged it straight away - before Johnson had even got there they should have been deciding what to do, so that before he set up they say, listen this is a bunker.

On that though, secondly - it's harsh to say, but there is also a responsibilty with the player/caddie - granted i know it would have been extremely dificult as he is focused on the shot, which is maybe where his caddie should have stepped in and said - "wait, is this a bunker, is it a hzard, do we get a drop, etc etc" - thats what should be doing anyway, if you put yourself in the ****, certainly with what will be your most important shot of your career coming up, you should be asking every question, a good golfer uses the rules to help him, his first question as soon as he looked at the ball should have been to the match ref, "can I get a drop here?" simple

- plus - it's his own fault for bottling it and sticking it there in the first plac.e

that said - it was a great final day, really exciting - rory just missed too many chances which was a shame - but yeah, i'm confident for the ryder cup now