Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Fight Set

[Shaggy]

Very true, but when it so blatantly fails to achieve anything.

Re this bit....he may have lost but it didn't "fail to achieve anything". They sold a **** load of PPVs, got people talking everywhere...we're still talking about it now. Job done. Or at least half of it. He said the aim was to provoke Wlad and get him to come out all guns blazing, but he's never going to admit the other part of it was to sell the fight. Like it or not the trash talking - in that sense - works.

[CJ]

so lets have a poll.

if haye gets a rematch what excuse will he have when he loses this time?

[BillobShaisley]

What exactly is the big deal about "as one sided as gang rape" ?

Is it condoning it?
Is it glorifying it?
Is it inciting it?
Did he say it at a womens refuge?

Exactly what is the problem?

[Kenneth]

Is it trivialising it?

I would suggest it is.

[Pablo]

Is it trivialising it?

I would suggest it is.

I (still) like Haye, but that was a bit of a stupid comment from him, which you can't really defend. Sometimes his mouth just runs away with him and he say's the wrong thing.

Also it's amazing how often that phrase is mis-used in football commentary:

"Malouda's absolutely raped the full-back there" etc

[BillobShaisley]

Is it trivialising it?

I would suggest it is.

I am sure there are legions of boxing followers with a new found apathy towards gang rape due to his comment.

[Shaggy]

[Chazza]

1240: BOXING - The Klitschko brothers' total domination of the heavyweight division is set to come to and end on 27 August in Germany as mandatory challenger Ruslan Chagaev takes on undefeated Russian Alexander Povetkin for the vacant WBA title.

Wladimir, who defeated David Haye to claim the belt just one week ago, is to be elevated to 'super' champion status, making room for another heavyweight champion to be crowned.

WTF is a 'super' champion?

[Daniel 7]

So he's won the WBA title and vacated it straight away? they're making these rules up as they go along. Too many titles, too many belts, boxing has no integrity. Its turning into WWE.

[Shaggy]

Farce. WTF's that all about?

Chagaev is awful, so awful he makes Wlad seem exciting.

[Mike]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/14104555.stm

WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko has told BBC Sport he would be prepared to fight David Haye.

Vitali's brother Wladimir beat the Briton on points in Germany on 2 July.

"I was the happiest man in the world that my brother beat him but I'm unhappy that Wladimir [was not able] to send him to the floor," said Vitali.

"That did not happen because it's difficult when someone is running away. Maybe in the future if I have a chance to send him to the floor, I will."

But Vitali added that he and his brother - who could yet face Haye in a rematch - no longer have as much motivation to take him on since he no longer holds a world title.

By beating Haye, Wladimir added the British fighter's WBA belt to his IBF, IBO and WBO titles.

"It was big motivation to fight David Haye because he had the one title we didn't have, but now we have all the titles in the heavyweight division," said Vitali.

"Sometimes boxing fans are confused about who is the world champion, but now no questions, the world champion is Klitschko. That it's two brothers is not important.

"One of the boxing experts said right now that there is the biggest crisis [in boxing]. The name of that crisis is Klitschko brothers. We have a lot of power. We have a couple more years dominating at heavyweight."

After his defeat by Wladimir, Haye spoke of his desire to avenge that result, but the Ukrainian has questioned his beaten opponent's motivation.

"I don't really believe he wants to have this rematch because the end of the fight won't be changed in any way," said the 35-year-old.

"He's talking about finances because it's a good way to make more money. Well, it's not just about money in sport. Will I concede a rematch? Maybe yes, maybe no. I have some time to think about it but there are good names such as Dereck Chisora and Tyson Fury, new fighters who haven't lost and have all their ambitions.

"I believe David Haye got his 15 minutes of fame in the last two years on the cost of the Klitschko brothers' name, because that's the way he was promoting himself.

"I think he has talked about his retirement by October and I believe his dream is coming true. He can retire and go to Hollywood like he has been dreaming about."

[Chazza]

0935: BOXING - Press Association report that Wladimir Klitschko could take on Dereck Chisora in a heavyweight world title fight in London later this year, the Ukrainian has revealed.

Chisora

[Daniel 7]

Chisora is rubbish. They're all rubbish at heavyweight, Lennox was the last great fighter at that weight. I see he also namechecked Tyson Fury - he's rubbish too.

[red g]

Tyson Fury saying he coud beat Vitali.

Oh dear.

[Tee]

What a **** division right now. Bruno would have been the undisputed King of Heavyweights if he was in this era.