Tyson v Lewis

[Doc_Piptorious]

I know nothing about boxing, but Tyson's punches sounded different to anyone before him... bloody scary.

What is the greatest pairing of all time.... Ali vs. Who?

I am guessing that we are talking about Heavyweight pairings here.

Holmes vs Norton
Ali vs Frazier 1
Bowe vs Holyfield 1
Holmes vs Weaver
Ali vs Shavers

Not old enough to judge the fights from before the 70's, have only seen them on tape, and the footage for the really old fights was brutal, which is a shame as I would have love to have seen the original Sugar Ray in action live.

If you are looking for a fantasy pairing at Heavyweight, I have always had a hankering for a healthy Holyfield vs Ali.


The one fight I would gladly bludgeon someone to death to get to see, would have to be a peak Hagler vs a peak Monzon. So someone had better get that time machine warmed up soon. Can't beat the lighter divisions.

[Bob]

I am guessing that we are talking about Heavyweight pairings here.

Holmes vs Norton
Ali vs Frazier 1
Bowe vs Holyfield 1
Holmes vs Weaver
Ali vs Shavers

Not old enough to judge the fights from before the 70's, have only seen them on tape, and the footage for the really old fights was brutal, which is a shame as I would have love to have seen the original Sugar Ray in action live.

If you are looking for a fantasy pairing at Heavyweight, I have always had a hankering for a healthy Holyfield vs Ali.


The one fight I would gladly bludgeon someone to death to get to see, would have to be a peak Hagler vs a peak Monzon. So someone had better get that time machine warmed up soon. Can't beat the lighter divisions.

Good point on the lighter divisions. Wayne McCullough and Barry McGuigan used to be my heroes.

Best fight i ever seen was Benn vs. McClellan. IIRC McClellan stepped up a division to meet Benn. I vividly remember roaring Benn on, then reading the papers of the aftermath on my way to school the following day

Highlights : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsZkvE4Zsko

[Red Chilli]

from wikipedia

Gerald McClellan (born October 23, 1967 in Freeport, Illinois) is a former boxer from the United States, who was world Middleweight champion. Trained by hall of fame trainer Emanuel Steward, he conquered the WBO world Middleweight championship knocking out John Mugabi in one round in 1991, and the WBC's version by knocking out Julian Jackson in five rounds in 1993.

McClellan, nicknamed The G-Man, never realised his initially awesome potential due to a tragedy which struck when McClellan went up in weight to challenge world Super-Middleweight champion Nigel Benn in London on February 25 of 1995. Televised to the United States by Showtime, the fight had a devastating ending, as McClellan, after dropping Benn out of the ring in round one and once again in round eight, took a knee in round ten and was counted out, collapsing in his corner and losing consciousness. French referee Alfred Azaro was harshly criticized as inept for the way he handled the fight.

McClellan recovered his consciousness, but he lost his eyesight and his ability to walk. Sports Illustrated ran an article about the fight and its outcome one week after the fight. McClellan's family flew to be by his side, and later on, he was flown back to his home country. He has recently recovered some ability to walk, being helped by a cane, but he has not recovered his eyesight. In addition, he has lost a great deal of his hearing and his short-term memory was profoundly affected. His three sisters, more particularly Lisa McClellan, are responsible for his care nowadays. He has been the honoree at numerous banquets and award ceremonies, and fellow boxing world champion Roy Jones Jr., often pointed as a possible rival during the 1980s, set up a foundation to help McClellan.

McClellan's record as a professional boxer was 31 wins and 3 losses with 29 wins by knockout. McClellan's opponents rarely got past the third round.

very sad

[friedk]

If both fighters had met in their prime, I don't think Lewis would have lived with him.

Lennox Lewis was good, and during his reign there was no one who came close, but I don't feel he is anywhere near the best this division ever had.

[bazza76]

I dont think there is a heavyweight either past or present who would have lived with Tyson in his prime, just my opinion.

[Hollowman]

Maybe, but beating up Mitch Green and Pinklon Thomas is hardly akin to fighting Frazier, Ali, Foreman or Norton. For all his ferocity, the only named scalp Tyson took was Holmes, and he was well shot by then.

[friedk]

Maybe, but beating up Mitch Green and Pinklon Thomas is hardly akin to fighting Frazier, Ali, Foreman or Norton. For all his ferocity, the only named scalp Tyson took was Holmes, and he was well shot by then.

Michael Spinks?

A lot of people rated him the best heavyweight around at the time and Tyson destroyed him in 90 seconds.

[Hollowman]

Nobody rated him the best heavyweight. He was the best light-heavyweight, no doubt. And the Holmes fights surprised a lot of people, but two swallows don't make a summer.

That was probably Tyson's defining moment though. The look on Spinks' face when he took the body shot that almost broke him in two and he suddenly realised that fighting a 37 year old Larry Holmes ain't the same as fighting Tyson...just that look should go in the hall of fame.

[Helios Creed]

I am guessing that we are talking about Heavyweight pairings here.

Holmes vs Norton
Ali vs Frazier 1
Bowe vs Holyfield 1
Holmes vs Weaver
Ali vs Shavers

Not old enough to judge the fights from before the 70's, have only seen them on tape, and the footage for the really old fights was brutal, which is a shame as I would have love to have seen the original Sugar Ray in action live.

If you are looking for a fantasy pairing at Heavyweight, I have always had a hankering for a healthy Holyfield vs Ali.


The one fight I would gladly bludgeon someone to death to get to see, would have to be a peak Hagler vs a peak Monzon. So someone had better get that time machine warmed up soon. Can't beat the lighter divisions.

Cheers. Strange that such a brutal, but fascinating sport inspires the most civilised discussion on the site.

[Joe Le Toff]

The one fight I would gladly bludgeon someone to death to get to see, would have to be a peak Hagler vs a peak Monzon. So someone had better get that time machine warmed up soon. Can't beat the lighter divisions.

Great call

[Joe Le Toff]

Having had the privilege of seeing both fighters in the flesh at the peak of their careers, IMO it would have to be a Tyson victory in the early rounds.

Tysons movement at his peak, the ducking and diving, centre of gravity etc, that made him so ****ing difficult to hit, coupled with the unbelievable hand speed gives him the edge over Lewis for me, i think as soon as Tyson stuck one on Lewis that would be it.