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    Vuelta a España 2012

    The Tour of Spain starts on Saturday. Eurosport are billing it as Contador versus Froome.

    It'll be different from the Tour of France, and no, Nigey, not just because it's in Spain. Sky have a strong team but I can't see them dominating like they did in the Tour. And others will fancy their chances. It'll be interesting to see how Cobo fares.

    Even with all the recent cycling converts, I fully expect this thread to have died by this time next week.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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    A week? I see I was being way too optimistic.
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    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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      #3


      Why Froome? Is Wiggo not going in this?

      Be interesting with Contador back against Sky
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        #4
        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post


        Why Froome? Is Wiggo not going in this?

        Be interesting with Contador back against Sky
        He would be pretty knackered I guess.
        Are we winning?

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          #5
          Well Froome did the Tdf and two Olympic events too
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            #6
            Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
            Well Froome did the Tdf and two Olympic events too
            Wiggins did spend that little extra bit of effort. Froome was not seen much during the Olympics. Remember the Vuelta is over 2 weeks.
            Are we winning?

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              #7
              Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
              Wiggins did spend that little extra bit of effort. Froome was not seen much during the Olympics. Remember the Vuelta is over 2 weeks.
              no he didn't, if anything he did less because he gave up pedalling in the road race before wiggo.
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                #8
                Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                Wiggins did spend that little extra bit of effort. Froome was not seen much during the Olympics. Remember the Vuelta is over 2 weeks.
                It's 3 actually, Nigey.
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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  #9
                  Originally posted by captainfog View Post
                  no he didn't, if anything he did less because he gave up pedalling in the road race before wiggo.
                  Are we winning?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post


                    Why Froome? Is Wiggo not going in this?

                    Be interesting with Contador back against Sky
                    You're already sounding like a real a fish in a yard-o.

                    As for Wiggins and Froome, all the riders have different race programmes throughout the year, and WorldTour teams have to send teams to most races, which often overlap. For instance, during the Tour de France, there was also a week long Tour of Poland, and Sky had a team at that (and they won a stage or two as I recall). So while Sky will have nine riders starting the Vuelta, at much the same time they'll also have a team at the Tour of Denmark (I don't know but I assume that'll last six or seven days). Plus Wiggo is likely to be riding the Tour of Britain in September - so might Cav.

                    It's fairly rare these days for any rider to ride all three Grand Tours (the Giro d'Italia is the other one) in a single season, and top contenders often don't really race more than one. Also the media commitments for a Tour de France winner must be enormous, and what with the gold medal as well, he probably hasn't done enough training for a three week tour. It might also knacker him for months if he goes too deep into his reserves. Plus his whole season has been geared to the Tour and the Olympics - he probably needs a rest.

                    And he's just won the Tour de France. Why would he take part in the Vuelta when he wouldn't stand a good chance of winning? It would only tarnish his reputation.

                    And - I'm going to repeat myself - he's just won the Tour de France. Give him a break!
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                    Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                      #11
                      Also Froome came second last year. I assumed months ago he'd be Sky's protected rider for the Vuelta, just as Wiggins was at the Tour.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Red Setter View Post
                        Also Froome came second last year. I assumed months ago he'd be Sky's protected rider for the Vuelta, just as Wiggins was at the Tour.
                        Are we winning?

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                          #13
                          Tour of Britain? Wah? Where?


                          I could google it. But Neil...sorry Red Setter knows more about it than me.
                          *Except Michael, who died.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Red Setter View Post
                            You're already sounding like a real a fish in a yard-o.

                            As for Wiggins and Froome, all the riders have different race programmes throughout the year, and WorldTour teams have to send teams to most races, which often overlap. For instance, during the Tour de France, there was also a week long Tour of Poland, and Sky had a team at that (and they won a stage or two as I recall). So while Sky will have nine riders starting the Vuelta, at much the same time they'll also have a team at the Tour of Denmark (I don't know but I assume that'll last six or seven days). Plus Wiggo is likely to be riding the Tour of Britain in September - so might Cav.

                            It's fairly rare these days for any rider to ride all three Grand Tours (the Giro d'Italia is the other one) in a single season, and top contenders often don't really race more than one. Also the media commitments for a Tour de France winner must be enormous, and what with the gold medal as well, he probably hasn't done enough training for a three week tour. It might also knacker him for months if he goes too deep into his reserves. Plus his whole season has been geared to the Tour and the Olympics - he probably needs a rest.

                            And he's just won the Tour de France. Why would he take part in the Vuelta when he wouldn't stand a good chance of winning? It would only tarnish his reputation.

                            And - I'm going to repeat myself - he's just won the Tour de France. Give him a break!


                            Cheers. Interesting and helpful.

                            Will watch what I can . Is it on Eurosport?
                            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                              #15
                              I'm hoping to be at the Tour Down Under in Adelaide.
                              Was muß, das muß.

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