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    #61
    Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
    Yes, Sky did look good today. Porte's obviously not on great form but Uran and Henao did a great job.

    It was a surprise to see Contador dropped like that. Good though. And Valverde.

    I strongly disagree about Eurosport.
    The quality of the picture always breaking up and freezing does get a tad annoying. Commentary is good but they only show about 2 hours of the live racing which could be longer.
    Go **** yourself

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      #62
      That's not Eurosport's fault, that's down to the host broadcaster and difficult transmission conditions (like hills, or bad weather, etc.).

      I agree, I'd like to see much more of the stages, start to finish ideally. But it hardly ever happens - even in the Tour de France, French TV shows only the last hour or two of all but the crucial mountain stages. It's because nothing much happens usually and only diehards would watch. So even if Eurosport wanted to show it all, they couldn't, because the pictures aren't available.

      Live coverage is so much better than highlights though. It was watching the Tour live for the first time on Eurosport in the mid-90's that really got me into it. Suddenly it all made sense.

      I love the commentary team of Harmon and Kelly on Eurosport.
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      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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        #63
        A regulation stage today, not very exciting, sprint finish, as you were on GC.
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        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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          #64
          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
          That's not Eurosport's fault, that's down to the host broadcaster and difficult transmission conditions (like hills, or bad weather, etc.).

          I agree, I'd like to see much more of the stages, start to finish ideally. But it hardly ever happens - even in the Tour de France, French TV shows only the last hour or two of all but the crucial mountain stages. It's because nothing much happens usually and only diehards would watch. So even if Eurosport wanted to show it all, they couldn't, because the pictures aren't available.

          Live coverage is so much better than highlights though. It was watching the Tour live for the first time on Eurosport in the mid-90's that really got me into it. Suddenly it all made sense.

          I love the commentary team of Harmon and Kelly on Eurosport.
          Used to love watching it on French TV back then, TF1.
          Are we winning?

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            #65
            Really? It's mainly on TF2 these days. And the frankly ludicrous warm-up show, 'Village Départ', is on TF3, along with early coverage. It switches to TF2 for the last couple of hours.

            First time they switched channels, it took us a few minutes to find it. We were watching trotting for a couple of minutes before we realized what had happened.
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            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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              #66
              Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
              Really? It's mainly on TF2 these days. And the frankly ludicrous warm-up show, 'Village Départ', is on TF3, along with early coverage. It switches to TF2 for the last couple of hours.

              First time they switched channels, it took us a few minutes to find it. We were watching trotting for a couple of minutes before we realized what had happened.
              Actually, it might have been on France 2/3 (at the time - not sure how it's called now). I remember Bernard Thevenet used to be consultant and co-comment the race.
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                #67
                Thévenet

                Did you read what Bernard Hinault said a couple of days ago about Armstrong?

                I don't ****ing care. It's his problem not mine. It's a problem that should have been solved ten or fifteen years ago and that wasn't.


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                Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                  #68
                  No, didn't read it.

                  Hinault

                  I started loving watching the Tour De France at the time of his famous battle with Greg Lemond, then later on Lemond vs Fignon. Great times.

                  I remember this vividly.

                  [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oIkVNykuuE"]Tour de France 1986 : Hinault et LeMond à l'Alpe d'Huez - YouTube[/ame]
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                    #69
                    Watched this again and the finish was a fabulous moment.

                    Speaking of memories, what did you think of Indurain? Similar style to Greg Lemond, maybe with less panache but a fabulous athlete. Just seen this on WikiPedia:

                    Indurain had a physiology superior to fellow athletes. His blood took seven litres of oxygen around his body per minute,[25] compared to 3–4 litres for an ordinary person and 5–6 litres for fellow riders. His cardiac output is 50 litres a minute; a fit amateur cyclist's is about 25 litres. Indurain's lung capacity was 7.8 litres,[2] compared to an average of 6 litres. His resting pulse was as low as 28 BPM,[2] compared to an average 60–72 bpm, which meant his heart would be less strained in the tough mountain stages.[14] His VO2 max was 88 ml/kg/min; in comparison, Lance Armstrong's was 83.8 ml/kg/min and Greg LeMond's was more than 92 ml/kg/min.[26]
                    That's incredible.
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                      #70
                      Yes, he was an incredible athlete. Compared to normal people, they all are.

                      I started watching it in the late Eighties so Big Mig was an early hero but, as I said, it wasn't really until I watched it live that I really got it. That and seeing a stage passing through Sarlat-la-Canéda in '94. So exciting.
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                      Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                        #71
                        More Hinault mayhem:

                        [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqMqCc1Qy7E"]Hinault punch - YouTube[/ame]

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                        Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                          #72
                          And he hasn't changed:

                          [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BczZrJyVjJY"]2008 Tour de France - Stage #3 podium - YouTube[/ame]
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                          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                            #73
                            I suppose many of them ride like Indurain now, he was so good at measuring his effort. Now they use power meters of course, it's more scientific and precise than it was back in the Nineties.
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                            Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



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                              #74
                              I remember that

                              It must be incredibly irritating for riders that kind of thing and it's normal that he snapped. Every year there are near misses in the mountain stages, especially with members of the public running next to them. They probably think it motivates them but I'm pretty sure it's very annoying.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                                And he hasn't changed:

                                2008 Tour de France - Stage #3 podium - YouTube


                                Impulsive guy he is Hinault. A bit like me.
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