Apparently be was having blood transfusions to try avoiding been caught 
Biggest cheat in world sport? Even bigger than Ronaldo?
Biggest cheat in world sport? Even bigger than Ronaldo?
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Cheating Scum. I want my £1 back from that bull**** writstband he guilted me into buying.*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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Isn't that (the band) for awareness of testicular cancer though and not related to cycling.Originally posted by Alex View Post
It is a sad legacy that he is going to leave by the looks of things. However his battle to beat cancer is still an incredible one, and the work he has put into the awareness of testicular cancer should not be allowed to go to waste
Modifying post.Comment
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Not surprised, he probably nicked someone else's body whilst avoiding drug detection. Check his lower neck for stitch marks...Comment
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Has he actually been found guilty of doping?
The BBC reporting that he's no longer going to fight to allegations of doping and according to WADA rules this is implied guilt and he'll therefore be stripped off all Tour De France titles and such.
What is the actual evidence against him?Comment
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And as an aside i'm wondering if WADA and the like are going to strip the likes of Carl Lewis, Linford Chrisite, Joyner and all of the other disgraced Olympic cheats.Comment
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My understanding is Carl Lewis has never doped..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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You jestOriginally posted by Neil Young View Post
Apparently failed a test at the US Olympic trials in '88.Comment
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I was of course joking. What he has done for cancer is amazing. That should never be overlookedOriginally posted by Buzzo View PostIsn't that (the band) for awareness of testicular cancer though and not related to cycling.
It is a sad legacy that he is going to leave by the looks of things. However his battle to beat cancer is still an incredible one, and the work he has put into the awareness of testicular cancer should not be allowed to go to waste
*Except Michael, who died.Comment
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He's caved in rather than going through hearings. He says it's because the hearings would be prejudiced against him. But giving up without a fight is so out of character for him, I think it's right to take it as an admission of guilt.Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
The evidence includes witness statements from other cyclists, including but not limited to convicted dopers (Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton). There are concerns that these have been offered some sort of deal in return for giving evidence/co-operating and that Armstrong has not been offered the same deal.
But we're splitting hairs - he's guilty.
It's right that he's been given the benefit of the doubt before but his innocence and probity has long been doubtful. Now I think it's clear he cheated..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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Christie did fail a drug test later in his career and received a ban.Originally posted by dom9 View Post
Strong suspicions about Lewis and also Joyner.
Armstrong hasn't failed any drugs tests but he's about to be stripped because he's not contesting the allegations.
Somthing is rotten in the state of Denmark.Comment
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He has passed 100s of doping tests throughout his career.Originally posted by spud_gun View Post
The evidence against him is the testimony of two of his former teammates who both admitted doping and accused Armstrong of the same. He claims they have been given illegal inducements to make these claims.Last edited by G; 24-08-12, 10:11 AM.Comment
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Really? I hadn't heard that. I've always heard him spoken of as someone with an impeccable record, a paragon.Originally posted by spud_gun View PostYou jest
Apparently failed a test at the US Olympic trials in '88.
Still, athletics - it's long been rotten and has done less to clear itself up than cycling has..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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I don't think so. If it was just Hamilton and Landis, then I'm sure he'd have fought. Two witnesses with a long established record of lying to the authorities in quasi-judicial processes? His lawyers would have had a field day.Originally posted by G View Post
Supposedly there are at least ten cyclists or former cyclists, including ones with a hitherto clean record. Like I said, it's arguable that their evidence is tainted because they may have been offered a deal. But again, Armstrong's lawyers could have fought if that's all it was.
The argument is he's given up because he'd have been found guilty and he'd have been found guilty because he is guilty. I really believe it's that straightforward.
It's sad in a way but there's no avoiding it..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
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