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    I think he deserves his own thread.

    Another sublime run yesterday moving up in distance and blowing away the field.

    Blistering Frankel scorches away from York rivals
    Unbeaten champion takes step up to 10 furlongs in stride amid jubilant scenes

    One of the constables deputed to shepherd him towards the saddling boxes looked up and saw Frankel being led out of the pre-parade ring. "Now," he muttered to his colleague. "Here comes Seabiscuit."

    Never again be deceived by the trite consensus that only hoary old steeplechasers ever stick around long enough to find a meaningful niche in the hearts of the racing public. During the previous race, which happened to be the main trial for the season's final Classic, not one of the hundreds who had staked out a few square inches round the pre-parade ring, saddling area and paddock was prepared to forfeit his or her precious portion of Yorkshire. They stood so deep, their backs to a gripping finish out on the track, that most could only mark Frankel's progress by the cameras and cellphones rising sequentially aloft, like flowers opening before the sun.

    Those who did glimpse him could testify that the burnished champion indeed exuded an almost solar brilliance. And those mortal creatures who dared to stand in his path, as he sought his first win beyond a mile, were duly left scorched and blackened in his wake. Frankel ran away with the Juddmonte International Stakes in much the same fashion that he had won a dozen previous starts – the last eight now Group Ones, a record sequence – plainly a class apart from any thoroughbred on earth, not to mention, or so the suspicion grows, most past paragons whose bones now rest in its soil.

    Relief surged through the crowd. This had been one of those rare sporting occasions when everyone wanted only ceremony, not competition. John Magnier, the Coolmore boss, even sought out Lord Grimthorpe – racing manager to Frankel's owner, Khaled Abdulla – to advise their intentions for St Nicholas Abbey and his two pacemakers, and to assure him that there would be "no funny business" to thwart the favourite.

    Onlookers had been aghast at the emaciation of Sir Henry Cecil, whose six-year struggle with cancer had prevented him getting to Goodwood for his champion's previous start. Horse and trainer alike have become so precious that anticipation was laced with dread. Sure enough, when Tom Queally allowed Frankel to amble from the rear to join St Nicholas Abbey, halfway up the straight, an exuberant roar swelled through the stands – which housed a crowd up 50 per cent on last year, to more than 30,000. Children were hoisted upon shoulders, perplexed witnesses to proceedings that might some day be recalled with boastful clarity. And Frankel came bounding clear, under hands and heels, to see off Farhh by seven lengths, the latter in turn just holding St Nicholas Abbey. Farhh's rider, Frankie Dettori, returned grinning and shaking his head, re-enacting his fruitless shoving in pursuit of the invincible.

    Cecil and Frankel were each accorded three raucous cheers in the winner's enclosure. His throat weak, Cecil whispered gratitude. "That was great, wasn't it?" he asked. "Great for Yorkshire – they love their racing, and they deserve to see him." The whole thing, he avowed, made him feel "20 years better".

    In some, however, the euphoria will have a bittersweet edge. Could anyone sensibly suggest, now, that another 352 yards in the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe might represent a reckless gamble with Frankel's potency? Greatness suffuses Frankel's every step, but Cecil has been reluctant to measure it in ways better calculated to quantify his ultimate standing in the Turf pantheon. This was almost certainly Frankel's penultimate start, and the chances are that he will complete his career at Ascot on 20 October – condemned, thereby, to two months of idleness and an eternity, for every other racing nation, as some parochial mystery of the British Turf.

    Grimthorpe did not wholly dismiss the Arc, for which Frankel would have to be supplemented. "Henry didn't want to put him in the Arc, so obviously that would have to be discussed," he said. "That choice will be Prince Khaled's, but we'll have to see. The plan was always Ascot, and it's just a question of how he comes out and where we go from there."

    He reiterated that Santa Anita's decision to restore dirt, after an experiment with a synthetic surface, had always counted against a swansong at the Breeders' Cup – though he acknowledged the appeal of taking the colt named in his memory to the old stamping ground of the late trainer Bobby Frankel. "Prince Khaled loves the Breeders' Cup and we'd love to take Frankel to Santa Anita, Bobby's hometown," he said. "The emotional ties would be just too fantastic. But unfortunately maybe the right race is not there. We're not going to take him on dirt first time around."

    Going for the Arc, of course, would open up the possibility of the Breeders' Cup Turf instead. But Queally sagely cautioned against any counsel that implied ingratitude to those who have shown such mastery in bringing Frankel even this far. "People are very fast to look at a racecard and say he should win," Queally said. "It's not easy to get any horse to the races and win every time. Years have gone into this horse, from a lot of people all the way back to those who brought him into the world on day one."

    Sponsored as it is by the same Juddmonte Farms, where they reared their own champion, this race has long been a special target for Abdulla's team. "You get so spoilt," Grimthorpe said. "I don't want to sound arrogant, but the expectations every time he runs are just enormous – and it's fantastic the way he keeps delivering, time after time. But that's Frankel. I have never seen anything like it."

    #2
    His next race will be his last though.
    *Except Michael, who died.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Alex View Post
      His next race will be his last though.
      Is that a threat?




      I know he's an unbelievable horse but I find it hard to get overly excited by a horse running fast. It's just a horse isn't it?

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        #4
        Yep.

        Looking like Ascot on the 20th October then off to stud.

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          #5
          He's got Sports Personality of the Year wrapped up.
          .
          Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



          May the Lord bless this post.

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            #6
            The Breeders' would be a ridiculous decision. Frankel has never run full out on dirt, and trying it now after a five thousand mile flight would be insanity. Look what happened to Black Caviar after a long journey and a race on unfamiliar turf.

            The l'Arc is interesting. I don't think the extra furlongs would be an issue. He stepped up the extra twenty chains without any bother, and the animal's ability to separate on the final stretch would be something to see at Longchamp, like Seabird tearing the field up in '65.

            The only issue is, for the right 'hype' to go to stud, he'd have to win it by a mile, like he does the shorter races. The money is all about the sprint ability.

            Besides, I think Ascot is a more appealing prospect. Camelot has been entered into the Champions too. It's not often you get two undefeated super horses going head-to-head. The romantic dream would be the two of them at the l'Arc, but I just don't see it. Let them go at it at Ascot over ten, let one of the records fall. Camelot could be a Triple Crown winner by then. So you'd have the first TC since Nijinsky versus the greatest horse ever.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
              The Breeders' would be a ridiculous decision. Frankel has never run full out on dirt, and trying it now after a five thousand mile flight would be insanity. Look what happened to Black Caviar after a long journey and a race on unfamiliar turf.

              The l'Arc is interesting. I don't think the extra furlongs would be an issue. He stepped up the extra twenty chains without any bother, and the animal's ability to separate on the final stretch would be something to see at Longchamp, like Seabird tearing the field up in '65.

              The only issue is, for the right 'hype' to go to stud, he'd have to win it by a mile, like he does the shorter races. The money is all about the sprint ability.

              Besides, I think Ascot is a more appealing prospect. Camelot has been entered into the Champions too. It's not often you get two undefeated super horses going head-to-head. The romantic dream would be the two of them at the l'Arc, but I just don't see it. Let them go at it at Ascot over ten, let one of the records fall. Camelot could be a Triple Crown winner by then. So you'd have the first TC since Nijinsky versus the greatest horse ever.
              Where is the Hedgehog?
              .
              Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.



              May the Lord bless this post.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                The Breeders' would be a ridiculous decision. Frankel has never run full out on dirt, and trying it now after a five thousand mile flight would be insanity. Look what happened to Black Caviar after a long journey and a race on unfamiliar turf.

                The l'Arc is interesting. I don't think the extra furlongs would be an issue. He stepped up the extra twenty chains without any bother, and the animal's ability to separate on the final stretch would be something to see at Longchamp, like Seabird tearing the field up in '65.

                The only issue is, for the right 'hype' to go to stud, he'd have to win it by a mile, like he does the shorter races. The money is all about the sprint ability.

                Besides, I think Ascot is a more appealing prospect. Camelot has been entered into the Champions too. It's not often you get two undefeated super horses going head-to-head. The romantic dream would be the two of them at the l'Arc, but I just don't see it. Let them go at it at Ascot over ten, let one of the records fall. Camelot could be a Triple Crown winner by then. So you'd have the first TC since Nijinsky versus the greatest horse ever.


                Hollow

                I gree with most you have written

                Are you saying that Frankel is the greatest horse ever. For me he would be top 5 behind

                Seabird II
                Secretariat
                Man O War
                Ribot

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                  #9
                  I was more talking about how the race will be promoted. Frankel's Timeform rating is the highest ever, so on the circuit it would be acceptable to forward him as the greatest ever. Trying to make a list with an individual horse on top is folly if you ask me. Some horses are protected better than others, and over time there's no way of evenly evaluating them.

                  The horse I most would have liked to see in the flesh was Citation. Colonial Trip Crown winner in 48. Romped home in Kentucky and won the Preakness by six lengths. Tied the Belmont course record securing the Crown. Won 19 races that season alone.

                  If you think about it, Man O War had 20 wins from 21 when he was retired at the end of his three year old campaign, and Secretariat had 16 wins from 21 when retired at the same time. Citation would have had 27 wins from 29 if they'd studded him then, but they kept racing him until he was six (and he missed his entire four year old season with injury). And four of his later defeats came at the hands of Noor, who in 1950 had one of the great American seasons, slashing course records all over the place. If they'd retired Citation at three, he'd probably be remembered as the greatest American horse ever.

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                    #10
                    I understand where you are coming from now, with the race promotion. Citation was indeed a fantastic racehourse. Its shame the owners blighted his record by not putting him to stud earlier

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                      #11
                      I feel the opposite. I'd like to see horses allowed to run. For me, the loses Citation suffered when he was five and six don't detract from the fact he was one of the greatest three year olds ever. If they were allowed to run a little longer we'd see more superhorses running against each other. If they'd put Citation to stud he never would have raced Noor. Noor won the head-to-heads 4-1, but he torched world and course records, and Citations runner's up times also beat the previous records. They must have been amazing races to watch, between what were basically the two fastest horses ever at that point in history.

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                        #12
                        Hopefully Frankel goes for the Arc, winning that race would absolutely cement his greatness. Camelot the only conceivable danger.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                          I feel the opposite. I'd like to see horses allowed to run. For me, the loses Citation suffered when he was five and six don't detract from the fact he was one of the greatest three year olds ever. If they were allowed to run a little longer we'd see more superhorses running against each other. If they'd put Citation to stud he never would have raced Noor. Noor won the head-to-heads 4-1, but he torched world and course records, and Citations runner's up times also beat the previous records. They must have been amazing races to watch, between what were basically the two fastest horses ever at that point in history.
                          Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by greenbloodred View Post
                            Hopefully Frankel goes for the Arc, winning that race would absolutely cement his greatness. Camelot the only conceivable danger.
                            Seeing the two of them going over there and trampling one-two over a high class French field would be glorious.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hollowman View Post
                              Seeing the two of them going over there and trampling one-two over a high class French field would be glorious.
                              Sure would. It would be an utterly fascinating duel, the step up in distance again for Frankel meeting the double Derby winner who has won his races in a canter. O'Brien also thinks that Camelot is as good as anything he has trained. Would make for an unmissable contest.

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