F1 Thread

[CJ]

McLaren the man utd of f1

[meffin]

I drive for a team (karting). The wheels are exposed (similarly but not as bad as F1) and you won't believe how easy it is to get launched into the air.

I had a crash a few weeks ago when somebody tried to dive down the inside from too deep, clipped my right rear bumper, hit my wheel and got catapulted over the top of me.

You won't believe how much it hurts having a crash at 60mph, never mind at 150mph+.

My mrs is a karter

[RichC]

McLaren the man utd of f1

Could well be , tough to say until we see how they are with a Honda engine.

Could go the way of the Mercs after a few seasons OR like their last foray into F1 when Button raced for them

[CJ]

Next season will be interesting for Williams. It will be the first car fully produced under Pat. Very talented TD. If its a good car then hopefully we will continue are upward trajectory. We would need another big sponsor though. If bottas goes he will go to merc. Very close to Toto.

[CJ]

Could well be , tough to say until we see how they are with a Honda engine.

Could go the way of the Mercs after a few seasons OR like their last foray into F1 when Button raced for them

Well McLaren have the best engine this season. So not sure the engine is the problem

[RichC]

Well McLaren have the best engine this season. So not sure the engine is the problem

Well obviously it's more than the engine at the moment but it's changing we & have no idea how it'll work plus they've hired Prodromou who was the RB aerodynamic chief who is very highly thought of

[CJ]

Well obviously it's more than the engine at the moment but it's changing we & have no idea how it'll work plus they've hired Prodromou who was the RB aerodynamic chief who is very highly thought of

Yep re hired him. Not sure that you have a good technical structure.

[RichC]

Next season will be interesting for Williams. It will be the first car fully produced under Pat. Very talented TD. If its a good car then hopefully we will continue are upward trajectory. We would need another big sponsor though. If bottas goes he will go to merc. Very close to Toto.

I think Merc, McLaren or Ferrari are possibilities tbh but it won't be until 2016.

[CJ]

His relationship with Toto means it will be merc. If Williams don't match his talent obviously. I do like how as a McLaren fan you include them. He would be better off at force India than McLaren at the moment.

[RichC]

Money talks my friend and as I've tried to explain on several occasions it depends on how the Mclaren car looks for 2016 but they'll certainly be an option alrhougn better talent such as Alonso or Hamilton might move back that way if the car is quick.

[CJ]

Money does talk but so does a winning car. McLaren are nowhere near with the best engine. The engine isn't the problem.

His mentor is in charge at Mercedes. You keep missing that snippet.

[RichC]

And you being completely dismissive of McLaren is laughable, the entire management team has been shifted around and the unknown of the new engine + new people coming in to help with the aero design of the car and the resources at their disposal is massive not a guarantee of success but it sure does help.

Williams come back and have their first half decent season since god knows when and it's Charlie big potatoes

Regardless of that though any team to get up to and overtake the Mercs and likely I think redbull again are going to have a tough time in the next couple of seasons.

[Camble]

My mrs is a karter

Does she race and if so what class?

[CJ]

And you being completely dismissive of McLaren is laughable, the entire management team has been shifted around and the unknown of the new engine + new people coming in to help with the aero design of the car and the resources at their disposal is massive not a guarantee of success but it sure does help.

Williams come back and have their first half decent season since god knows when and it's Charlie big potatoes

Regardless of that though any team to get up to and overtake the Mercs and likely I think redbull again are going to have a tough time in the next couple of seasons.

We will see Mon snoozy. You just can't accept the demise of moneybags McLaren.

As I say you have the best engine and are nowhere. So obviously a new engine is the answer to your problems.

When was McLarens last good car? That's why I can be dismissive.

[RichC]

I don't think you get my point whether it's lack of understand or being obtuse, the new engine is coming in I've said repeatedly we'll see how it works for them it's a complete unknown and they've been hiring people to work on the development of the car, another fact, will work who knows but they've the resources to make it work.

Much like Ferrari who without Alonso would be nowhere are still a big pull in the sport due to who they are and the resources that they have, if Alonso goes do you believe they won't replace with the likes of a Vettel? Drivers look for two things a lucrative contract and the ability to win, McLaren can offer half of that at the moment and could potentially cover the competitive car but as I've said time and again we'll have to see on that front but they are looking to improve the aero of the car and shouldn't be dismissed.
Simple enough to fathom ?