Cricket

[Catrin]

I think it is a reflection of how good he is. Outperformed every single member of the team despite being way below his best and coming in to bat at 20-3 every time because the top order were so atrocious.

As pointed out earlier, Lehmann - a strong leader - got Clarke and the divisive/disruptive Watson, banged their heads together, sorted them out and got on with it....with great results. It's what strong leadership does. These gutless cowards can't handle him so they just boot him out. I think it's completely preposterous. Sack Cook.

I do think Cook needs to go. There was a general slackness and lack of edge throughout the Ashes series. It looked as though Swann in particular realised early on that they had no chance and pretty much gave up.

[Alex]

I mean after that. Press conferences or whatever. They will be bombarded with questions about it until there is a good enough answer.

[Shaggy]

I do think Cook needs to go. There was a general slackness and lack of edge throughout the Ashes series. It looked as though Swann in particular realised early on that they had no chance and pretty much gave up.

Aye. The top and bottom of it is he's a poor captain - can't think on his feet, sticks to whatever rigid plan they drew up beforehand, is negative, defensive and has the demeanour of a frightened choirboy. I bet that changes when he's got a rifle in his hands and he's blowing away baby deer! I bet he's tough as **** then. Kin cunt.

I mean after that. Press conferences or whatever. They will be bombarded with questions about it until there is a good enough answer.

Yeah they have to front up now.

[Alex]

Aye. The top and bottom of it is he's a poor captain - can't think on his feet, sticks to whatever rigid plan they drew up beforehand, is negative, defensive and has the demeanour of a frightened choirboy. I bet that changes when he's got a rifle in his hands and he's blowing away baby deer! I bet he's tough as **** then. Kin cunt.



Yeah they have to front up now.

Disagree with that bit. He is incredibly inflexible. But when he has gotten it right he has done really well. He did win in India which is no mean feat.

[Shaggy]

Disagree with that bit. He is incredibly inflexible. But when he has gotten it right he has done really well. He did win in India which is no mean feat.

Don't think winning in India had a great deal to do with great captaincy (edit - a disservice, on reflection, but it was a one off against many more examples of **** captaincy), a magnificent achievement though it was. He's not a natural captain at all and is so negative he makes Strauss look an absolute maverick. And now his batting has crumbled, as has his slip fielding. Let him concentrate on batting and catching.

I suspect you possess a slight Essex bias

[Alex]

Well. I have to declare an interest yes.

[Shaggy]

Haha

[Shaggy]

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan
I'm about to tweet what @MattPrior13 told England players in team meeting after Melbourne Test.

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan
'Flower's behaving like a headmaster, this is a schoolboy environment. F**K Flower! This is OUR team!' - @MattPrior13 to England team.

[Alex]

Erm, why is Morgan putting that out. Stuff like that needs to stay in the dressing room.

What does it matter anyway, Flowers gone.

[Shaggy]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/716589.html

KP questions deserve answers

The abrupt discarding of England's highest international run-scorer appears to have been the result of catastrophic mismanagement. The ECB owes us all an explanation

George Dobell
February 5, 2014

'The ECB has to be more accountable'

It is no coincidence that Kevin Pietersen's international career has run concurrent with England's greatest period of success for at least 50 years.

When England won their first Ashes series in two-and-a-half decades, Pietersen's century sealed the triumph. When England won their first global limited-overs trophy, Pietersen was Man of the Tournament. When England went to No. 1 in the Test rankings with a 4-0 defeat over India, Pietersen led the way with a batting average of 106.60. And when England came from behind to win in India, Pietersen played the series-turning innings in Mumbai. He has been at the forefront of almost every success England have enjoyed in the last decade.

Even amid the rubble of the recent thrashing in Australia, Pietersen led the way. On the pitch, he was England's leading run-scorer; off it, he could be seen helping other players in the nets.

James Anderson and Stuart Broad both adopted Pietersen's batting stance having worked with him, while Pietersen was also conspicuous in his encouragement of young players such as Gary Ballance and Ben Stokes. There is no suggestion that he stinted in his fitness or technical preparation. He looked, most of the time, like the model senior professional.


Kevin Pietersen and James Anderson chat during practice, Perth, October 28, 2013
Kevin Pietersen offered advice to James Anderson, among others, on England's tour of Australia © Getty Images

So what has changed? What has changed since Ashley Giles, one of those who supposedly gave his support to the decision to cut Pietersen adrift, rated him a "million-dollar asset" on January 15; since Andy Flower praised his "determination" and labelled him a "great player" on December 10; or since Graeme Swann rated his attitude as "great" on January 27. Indeed, as recently as Christmas Day, Alastair Cook said Pietersen "has a huge part to play in the future" and praised the "excellent" way his squad had "stuck together in the dressing room".

Whispers suggest there were a couple of incidents, including a heated row with Cook in Sydney, in the last days of the tour. But, if Pietersen was so disruptive, why was he not disciplined at the time? If Cook and Pietersen had such a fierce row are they not both responsible and is Cook really the man to make a dispassionate decision? If, in a team meeting, Pietersen was asked for his views at the end of a chastening series, can he be penalised for stating them? And why is the ECB unable to tell us the reason for this drastic course of action?

The manner of the announcement - with Pietersen appearing to go quietly - suggests a deal has been done. But it is not just Pietersen who must be placated here.

England supporters deserve answers. It is unacceptably arrogant to dismiss their legitimate interest with an evasive media statement. It is unacceptable to discard England's highest international run-scorer without explaining exactly why the management believe the team will be stronger without him. It is absurd to claim that, with two global events in the next 12 months and one within weeks, that this is the time to start a long-term rebuilding operation. And it is disingenuous to claim, via off-the-record briefings, that all the senior players were canvassed and gave negative views on Pietersen. Several, at least, claim to be as confused by this episode as Pietersen seems to be. The ECB has to be more transparent and accountable.

The finality of this announcement will also hinder the next team director. Any credible applicant for that job will want to assemble their own team, appoint their own captain and make their own judgements on players. Yet the ECB has decided, without justifying its decision, to commit to a captain who, despite his many positive qualities, has only once averaged even 28 in five series against Australia, and a team without the man who might well be rated, upon reflection, as England's best batsman in half a century.

England's new management team may feel that this is a strong decision. But truly strong leaders accept alternatives, diversity and imperfection. Strong leaders are flexible and embrace difference. Strong leaders understand that genius very often comes at a cost, but a cost that is worth paying.

By allowing the situation to reach this conclusion and in taking such a drastic decision, this is a catastrophic failure of management. England are not embracing change, they are embracing mediocrity

If you can't manage, you shouldn't be in management. By allowing the situation to reach this conclusion and in taking such a drastic decision, this is a catastrophic failure of management. England are not embracing change, they are embracing mediocrity.

It is also a mistake to think this matter is closed. Until the ECB explains exactly how this happened, the questions will remain. Furthermore, England now face the potential prospect of finding new players to bat at No. 2 No. 3 and No. 4 in their Test team and will know that, every time they fail or Pietersen flourishes in whichever domestic league he finds himself at that time, the same questions will be asked: why not pick him? Cook has taken on a burden that will become wearisome very soon.

Pietersen is not perfect. He can seem brash, he can seem arrogant, he can seem self-interested and the manner of his dismissals can be infuriating. But if you accept a player who can hit good bowlers out of the attack - it was his assault against a ferociously quick Shaun Tait that won England the final of the World Twenty20 in 2010, to name one of dozens of examples - then you accept that he will, at times, fall to catches at long-on or long leg. If you ask your players to play fearless cricket but then hammer them for failing, you will create the culture of fear and inhibition that choked England throughout their tour of Australia.

There are parallels here with the end of David Gower's international career. Just as England's last genius batsman was pushed into early retirement by the Gradgrinds of the world, so Pietersen is being pushed away by those who should feel gratitude for his contribution. Had county cricket not lured Pietersen to the UK, the careers of Giles Clarke, Andrew Strauss, Andy Flower and Cook would all be much altered.

England cricket is the poorer for the absence of players such as Gower and Pietersen. It will be less colourful, less entertaining and less competitive. But in England the greater sin is to be seen to give you wicket away with a loose stroke rather than leaving a straight delivery and allowing it to hit your stumps. Failure is accepted so long as it is not accompanied by flair. Genius is doubted and distrusted and, in England, you are forgiven for turning you back and going on a rebel tour - Gooch, Gatting, Graveney et al - but not for rocking the boat. In England, success has been a brief interlude in a general drama of failure.

This England environment, in recent times, has a record of ruining players. A confused Steven Finn has regressed, an over-used Swann has retired, an exhausted Jonathan Trott has taken time out and the loss of form of the likes of Cook and Joe Root suggests that the schedule is part of an unsustainable business plan that risks running the greatest assets of all: the players.

It is increasingly hard to avoid the conclusion that it is the institution at fault, not the individuals. Change may well be required, but it is right at the top that it should start.

[Shaggy]

/\ That is a fantastic read. Nails it.

[captainfog]

Dobell ****ing rocks, man.

[Shaggy]

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
I don't do this PR, spinning media rubbish but I refuse to be attacked by a bloke that knows very little about what goes on in the England..

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
..setup apart from rumour, gossip and hearsay from certain individuals (most of whom I'd take with a pinch of salt!!) maybe I was recorded..

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
...or 'hacked' but if not I'd like to see where these words I apparently said have come from? I'm not the kind of person to divelge what...

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
...is said in team meetings but all I will say is that Flower, Cook and the rest of my team mates know exactly what I said & the way in..

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
...which it was meant! There is no story here just an attempt to knock someone who has only ever had the teams best interests at heart and..

Matt Prior @MattPrior13
...tried my best on and off the field to help the England cricket team. I can hold my head up high in that knowledge! #endof

[Shaggy]

Jonathan Agnew @Aggerscricket
Meeting yesterday with Downton lasted only 3 minutes with no explanation for his release forthcoming. No disciplinary action against KP..

Wow

[Shaggy]

iers Morgan @piersmorgan
No denial then @MattPrior13 - noted.

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan
You stabbed @KP24 in the back @MattPrior13 - yet you agreed with him re Flower's dictator style. Makes you a flaming hypocrite.

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan
Actually one of the worst re KP > RT @legsidelizzy @piersmorgan Prior is one of the good guys. Off side to try and bring him into this.

Piers Morgan @piersmorgan
For the record, @MattPrior13 led the England team meeting after Melbourne Test. And slaughtered Flower.

****in nuclear fall out to the most disastrous tour ever. Unreal.