Andy Murray/Tennis thread 2014

[captainfog]

Cruising tonight. He's set and a break up.

[RichC]

Good win this if he pulls it off.

[captainfog]

Good win this if he pulls it off.

Definitely, Raonic has had his number recently so beating him would be good for his confidence next year.

Long way to go in this match though, Raonic is right back in it after a classic Muzza wobble.

[Buzzo]

Good win from Murray. Needs a result against Roger.

Though if Fed beats Murray and Raonic wins, I have no idea how they work out who progresses?

[RichC]

I think he can go out even if he beats Fed, all a bit crazy the round robin.

Good win tonight from him as Raonic is never easy to beat when you can serve that big

[captainfog]

Semi-final Qualifying Procedure
The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:

a) Greatest number of wins;
b) Greatest number of matches played;
Comment: 2-1 won-loss record beats a 2-0 won-loss record; a 1-2 record beats a 1-0 record.
c) Head-to-head results if only two (2) players are tied,
d) If three (3) players are tied, then:

If three (3) players each have one (1) win, a player having played less than all three (3) matches is automatically eliminated and the player advancing to the single elimination competition is the winner of the match-up of the two (2) players tied with 1-2 records; or
Highest percentage of sets won; or
Highest percentage of games won; or
The player positions on the Emirates ATP Rankings as of the Monday after the last ATP World Tour tournament of the calendar year.
If (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) produce one (1) superior player (first place), or one (1) inferior player (third place), and the two (2) remaining players are tied, the tie between those two (2) players shall be broken by head-to-head record.


Comment 1: 1 player has 3 wins and the other 3 players have 1 win. Of the 3 players with 1 win, 1 player has only played in 2 matches while the other 2 players have played 3 matches. The player who has only played 2 matches is eliminated and then the 2 remaining players revert back to head-to-head results with the winner of their match advancing to the semi-finals.

Comment 2: 1 player has 3 wins and the other 3 players have 1 win and they all have played 3 matches.
The tie-break for % of sets won has 1 player with a better % than the other two. This player advances to the semi-final round.

Comment 3: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, they are ordered by their % of sets won. This produces a 1, 2 & 3 order and the players finishing 1 and 2 move to the semi-final round and the player finishing 3 in % of sets won is eliminated. The player with the best % of sets won is the winner of the group.

Comment 4: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 1 player’s sets won-loss is 5-2 for 71.43%; the other 2 players both have a 4-3 record in sets for 57.14%. In this case there is 1 superior player (71.43%) and the remaining 2 players are tied; it now reverts to the head to head result of the 2 remaining players with the winning player advancing as group runner-up.

Comment 5: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 2 have set won-loss records of 5-3 (62.5%) while the other player is 4-3 (57.14%). In this case we have 1 inferior player (57.14%) and he is eliminated. The remaining two players both advance to the semi-finals with the winner of their head-to-head match advancing as the group winner.

Comment 6: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, all have played 3 matches and all 3 have set won-loss records of 5-4 (55.56%). In this case we move to % of games won. The % of games won breaks down like this: 44-40 for 52.38%, 45-43 for 51.14% and 44-43 for 50.57%. This produces a 1, 2 and 3 order of the group and the number 1 player in % of games won is the group winner while the player finishing 2nd in % of games won advances to the semi-finals as the group runner-up. The player with the 3rd best % of games won is eliminated.

[captainfog]

So basically if Murray loses and Raonic wins then it goes down to the % of sets won. If that is equal it will go to the % of games won and if that is equal Muzza goes through because his ATP ranking is higher.

[captainfog]

Another twist in the tale:

Raonic has withdrawn from the tournament through injury and Ferrer has come in to replace him for the last match!

Murray permutations for semi-final qualification:

1. If Federer beats Murray and Nishikori beat Ferrer, Federer wins the group and Nishikori qualifies second

2. If Federer beats Murray and Ferrer beats Nishikori, Federer wins the group and Nishikori qualifies second

3. If Murray beats Federer in two sets and Ferrer beats Nishikori, Murray wins the group and Federer qualifies second

4. If Murray beats Federer in two sets and Nishikori beats Ferrer in two sets, it will come down to the percentage of games won between Federer, Murray and Nishikori

5. If Murray defeats Federer in two sets and Nishikori defeats Ferrer in three sets, Murray wins group and Federer qualifies second.

6. If Murray beats Federer in three sets and Nishikori beats Ferrer in two sets, Federer wins the group and Nishikori qualifies second

7. If Murray defeats Federer in three sets and Nishikori defeats Ferrer in three sets, Federer wins the group and Nishikori qualifies second

[captainfog]

Raonic being injured has actually made everything much harder for Murray. Before a straight sets victory by Raonic over Nishikori would have made everything so much easier, but a victory by Ferrer doesn't have the same positive impact on Muzza's hopes.

Bummer.

He simply has to win this evening now, so that is Murray out.

[Chazza]

Murray needs to win in straight sets.

[RichC]

Can't see that happening then

[Shaggy]

Anywhere to watch this online?

[RichC]

Bbc will be showing it

[Shaggy]

That's what I thought. **** all on their website yet.

[Shaggy]

****ing radio coverage on the BBC website.