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    I know what you mean but... I think he has to find out otherwise he will always wonder. At different times we’ve all thought Roger and Rafa should retire also and they are still performing at the top level.

    He’s still young so what else is he going to do?

    Speaking to the coaches I know and they reckon with the surgery he should be able to play at a very high level, it’s just whether he can play at that absolute elite level that separates the champs from the also rans again.

    The other thing is that outside of the big three there is no one winning Slams. The last was Andy, which is ridiculous. So he must feel that if he can get competitive he might have a shout.
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      My daughter been playing adult first team tennis the last few weeks, shes only 14

      Its doubles matches (ladies and mixed)

      She played some second team matches last year and again this year but was really thrown in at the deepend a few weeks back

      She predominantly plays U16 Junior tennis in the local league (this is singles), so far this season shes unbeaten in 6 matches and has only dropped 3 games

      So the club have got her to play regular second team tennis (all the local leagues are doubles) which is a huge step up and its an even bigger step up to the first team

      Really pleased for her shes not looked out of place despite playing people in their 20's & 30's (or 40's), but the higher up the league you go the more nous the players have
      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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        Sounds amazing. Is she under the tutelage of the LTA? What is the ambition?

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        Amazing to see Andy Murray on court tonight. Though it was only doubles he looked pretty mobile. Rusty first set, but his sharpness and competitive spirit were returning big time in the second set.

        It’s amazing thinking back now how he used to limp and trundle along the back of the court between points and here looked pretty sprightly. He was performing to a high level, reaching 1/4’s semis and finals with the injury so he must have a chance of doing well in singles... I guess we are soon to find out.
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          Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
          Sounds amazing. Is she under the tutelage of the LTA? What is the ambition?

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          Amazing to see Andy Murray on court tonight. Though it was only doubles he looked pretty mobile. Rusty first set, but his sharpness and competitive spirit were returning big time in the second set.

          It’s amazing thinking back now how he used to limp and trundle along the back of the court between points and here looked pretty sprightly. He was performing to a high level, reaching 1/4’s semis and finals with the injury so he must have a chance of doing well in singles... I guess we are soon to find out.
          No, shes nowhere near good enough for LTA county standard

          I have never had any amibition for her other than plsying club tennis

          Reality is if we had any ambition like that she would have been under LTA County coaches from the age of about 5 or 6
          Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            No, shes nowhere near good enough for LTA county standard

            I have never had any amibition for her other than plsying club tennis

            Reality is if we had any ambition like that she would have been under LTA County coaches from the age of about 5 or 6


            A guy I know who coaches has a seven year old son who is on the LTA radar.

            Good that she is enjoying it though. It is a fantastic game to play. How about yourself how are injuries these days?
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              Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


              A guy I know who coaches has a seven year old son who is on the LTA radar.

              Good that she is enjoying it though. It is a fantastic game to play. How about yourself how are injuries these days?
              Injury is fine now, fully recovered.

              Have had the odd hit here and there but have found a bit of a mental block when it comes to chasing stuff down (that use to be something I was good at)

              Its weird because when I was playing football never had any issues coming back after injuries, maybe old age has finally caught up to me
              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                Originally posted by Buzzo View Post


                A guy I know who coaches has a seven year old son who is on the LTA radar.
                I'm always a bit sceptical about how good kids actually are in the grand scheme of things

                The other week I happened to be watching a doubles match and there was a lady (she turned out to be only 16 year old girl) who was incredibly good, she was playing doubles and competing in a semi final that ultimately leads to a final match at one of the prestige events Liverpool Tennis Club

                Was talking to someone after this and he just dismissed her as an average player nowhere near the best in the county

                Its when you think that beyond county level is national level and beyond that is the junior tour

                The difference in levels are massive
                Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                  Yeah, my kids both play and I am happy that they just enjoy themselves. You can sense a palpable change when a parent is pushing there kids for greatness and as you say the standards to be absolute elite level are ridiculous.
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                    Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                    Injury is fine now, fully recovered.

                    Have had the odd hit here and there but have found a bit of a mental block when it comes to chasing stuff down (that use to be something I was good at)

                    Its weird because when I was playing football never had any issues coming back after injuries, maybe old age has finally caught up to me
                    I’m injury free also. Tennis is unforgiving and you really need full fitness to enjoy it. I threw my back out about 2 months ago just totally innocuous. Definitely think age is an issue, but so is preparation I need to do a lot of stretching.

                    I’m actually playing matches for the first time ever, it’s quite good fun. Get enough nerves to keep it interesting.

                    Tennis is so pugilistic. It’s amazing how much of the game is played in your head. I think playing matches is improving my standard though - and I’m enjoying it. Started to serve properly for the first time as opposed to just trying to fire aces down, which is low percentage.
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                      Not a bad first effort from Murray! Wins the doubles with Lopez at Queens

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                        Great to see him back on court

                        He looks as happy as I’ve ever seen him on court, clearly savouring his return.

                        He must be in reasonable shape did a full length dive volley return. No way you are doing that with any injury doubts.

                        It’s going to be fascinating watching his progress. Seems to be targeting a late 2019 return to singles.

                        Absolutely stellar week from Lopez. He has played so much tennis over the last 48 hours. 2 singles matches and 2 and a bit doubles.
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                          venus beat by a 15 year old
                          Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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                            Originally posted by rodo View Post
                            venus beat by a 15 year old
                            Not any 15 year old. She has been tipped to become the next star for some time. She's an exceptional talent.
                            Last edited by Fredo; 01-07-19, 09:04 PM.
                            Are we winning?

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                              Dupe
                              Are we winning?

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                                Originally posted by Fredo View Post
                                Dupe
                                ah either way she beat VENUS
                                Oh I say his vision there was lovely

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