Fernando Torres

[spud_gun]

I agree with sean, especially about how we've strengthened in such a short space of time. The irony is, what we've done since he left, is exactly what he always said would be needed, for him to stay - the problem was, he didnt show faith in the club and the owners, and for that, i have no sympathy.

The question is would we have been able to strengthen the way we have if he'd stayed? The £50m we got for him has been very wisely reinvested. Keep in mind we've 'only' spent £35m net in the last two windows. We wouldn't have a squad anywhere near as good as we've got now had we kept Torres and 'only' spent £35m.

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Well Luis was coming in anyway and I think Henry would still have driven the transfers in a similar way.

We'd just be without Carroll..?

[The Erectile Banana]

Well Luis was coming in anyway and I think Henry would still have driven the transfers in a similar way.

We'd just be without Carroll..?

I'd say that's pretty much bang on.

[Norbs]

Well Luis was coming in anyway and I think Henry would still have driven the transfers in a similar way.

We'd just be without Carroll..?

Carroll, Torres? Carroll, Torres?

Better not to go there tbh

[vonk]

That 50 goals clip is absolutely amazing. He is not that player now.

No doubt he was incredible for us.

Onwards and upwards!

[Bender]

Thing is i genuinely think he regrets the move and if given the chance would come crawling back to liverpool....he was an amazing goal scorer ......if he felt at home at chelsea wit the club and fans and players he would have scored several goals by now but he doesn't belong there.At Liverpool he had a hunger for the game and he was loved by the fans

[peekay]

Program on LFC TV where Carra lists his five favorite transfers

1 was Hyppia

5 was Torres to Chelsea

Might be a reflection of his image within the team before he left.

[Norbs]

I'm shocked by that but its funny as ****

[McDermotX]

Program on LFC TV where Carra lists his five favorite transfers

1 was Hyppia

5 was Torres to Chelsea

Might be a reflection of his image within the team before he left.

Fair play Carra, that redeems you for the Bolton goal.

[wavydavy]

Torres' situation is vaguely reminiscent of the Ian Rush one IIRC. When Rush left he was ****ing lethal. Just a goalscoring machine of a player with 139 goals in 224 games for the club. When he returned from Juve just a year later he was, in spite of the fact he went on to score a very respectable 90 goals in 245 games, not the same player. I remember at the time after games the talk was of "he's looking sharp","you don't lose what he's got overnight" & "only a matter of time" that we're now hearing with Torres. Granted, as I said earlier he scored goals and won trophies with us in his second spell, yet he never really looked like the player that he once was despite him still being relatively young (27 I think) when he re-signed in 1988. He had had those few years all the top players have where they're right at the top of their game. After that you begin to wane and that's no disgrace IMO. It's my view that this is what we're watching now with Torres. A true great of the modern game who's had his best few years and is now on the way down even at a relatively young age. Like Rush all those years ago he's struggling to adapt in a team who's style of play doesn't resemble the one he flourished in. I'm bitter about him leaving and it would appear he's made, at best, a sideways step in joining the Chavs. Like I said I'm still extremely bitter at him leaving the club the way he did especially after the non stop stream of the "I love LFC and the fans" **** of previous years. **** him.

[dom9]

Similarities with Robbie Fowler and Michael Owen too in many ways.

Common thread. They all had their best years with us.

[Leyton388]

Shame he turned out to be a prick. He could have been the greatest player to play for LFC and he would have been amazing playing under kenny with our pass and move system but he decided the take the easy option and join the rent boys.

It's his loss and is career will go the same way as MO with no one really loving im.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

I can't remember which post i just read, but i was watching South park last night and Indiana Jones was being raped by Spielberg and lucas.
I have this image of gerrard and carra now having their wicked ways with Torres

[Needles]

Still can't believe he had no faith in us, the owners, or Kenny. Still can't believe he never gave us until the end of the season. Still find it hard that he's gone but life carries on.

It just shows how much his transfer still hurts us as this thread now has a couple of thousand posts and counting...

[Craig_H]

I'll be honest - if he was performing at his best for Chelsea, it would probably hurt - but he's **** And i love it