View Full Version : I don't want Gerrard as captain
REDSCOUSER
08-08-06, 05:20 PM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
Could be ... but he does have two kids isn't it ?
Mumsafan
08-08-06, 05:21 PM
Why couldn't yer post this in the thread about Gerrad as Captain?
And I bet everyone who disagrees with his appointment if it happens will be a foreigner:D
Not sure. Beckham produced for his club while England captain. If it means we get a boost in profile as a club I'm all for it, otherwise I'm indifferent. Either Terry or Gerrard would make a good England captain.
He'd make a great English captain, I'm certain about that.
THe captaincy could have a poitive effect on him but on the other hand if/when England are not successful it will give the media another stick to beat him with.
Finnish_Red
08-08-06, 05:24 PM
Can I agree with his appointment even if I'm a foreigner? :)
It's not everyday you can lead your national team on the field as a captain...
bazza76
08-08-06, 05:34 PM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
YEah, id rather Gerrard only be concentrating on being LFC captain,
And I bet everyone who disagrees with his appointment if it happens will be a foreigner:D
:crackoff:
I don't want him to be capt because it was bad enough having a jumped up Owen whining on about England twenty-four seven (who the fuck are paying your wages again?).
Gerrard, as RS said should concentrate on LFC! England are destined to win nadda, nothing, fuck all in the career of Gerrard irrelevant of who is captain - they have neither the mentality or the coaching staff. LFC on the other hand are ably equipped to compete at the top of club football (imo of course).
It would therefore be sensible if he concentrated on Liverpool - the majority of LFC would surely agree, little to gain lots to lose. Poll anyone? :shake:
All a moot point anyway as Terry is odds-on or possibly Fowler after recent exploits ;)
RedJedi
08-08-06, 05:50 PM
I dont want him as England captain, let Terry put up with all the shite that comes with it from the press. Being captain of Liverpool should be the biggest honour for any Liverpool fan.
Feck England and there feckin southern home ground ( if it ever gets finished ).
I want 100% given to LFC.
Come on, how can anyone sugest that you wouldn't still get 100% for LFC from Stevie G?
It wouldn't change his commitment to LFC, no way.
REDSCOUSER
08-08-06, 05:57 PM
Why couldn't yer post this in the thread about Gerrad as Captain?
And I bet everyone who disagrees with his appointment if it happens will be a foreigner:D
1-Because i did not see the other thread ;)
2-You mean Scousers
RedJedi
08-08-06, 05:59 PM
Come on, how can anyone sugest that you wouldn't still get 100% for LFC from Stevie G?
It wouldn't change his commitment to LFC, no way.
Im sure he would always try and give a 100%, but you've seen the shite England mangers and England captains have got from the press. I just dont think he needs that in his life, im sure he wants the job and i know i am being selfish by not wanting him to get it, but im just being honest.
andyinswinton
08-08-06, 06:00 PM
He deserves the England captaincy.
Fair comment but you did say "I want 100% given to LFC" and in my humble opinion, Stevie G is our most comitted player on the field.
Im sure he would always try and give a 100%, but you've seen the shite England mangers and England captains have got from the press. I just dont think he needs that in his life, im sure he wants the job and i know i am being selfish by not wanting him to get it, but im just being honest.
Absolutely, it's no slight on Gerrard. The fact is he will be under more stress from the press and his England commitments will quadruple - FACT! Beckham, stated as much in that pathetic lovejoy doc.
Let me paint a picture we've got a big European game coming up and all the press can ask him is, what do you think England's chances are in the forthcoming friendly? - that will get right on my tits! No thank you, let Terry have it.
He's not superman, it will take it's toll.
Bryan Robosn was far from being superman but it never seemed to bother him.
I honestly can't see the problem. Really hope he gets it.
Bryan Robosn was far from being superman but it never seemed to bother him.
I honestly can't see the problem. Really hope he gets it.
Indeed he wasn't - however the pressures of the modern game are ever so different.
Ask big Phil...
In all honestly if he does get appointed i'll be made up for him, i genuinely will as i know he'd love it.
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
I agree.
The Glove
08-08-06, 06:24 PM
I like Gerrard concentrating on Liverpool but I wouldnt be arsed if he was England captain as I know he is Liverpool before England.
Im getting worried about Crouch though, I think he is straying to much in to the 'im an Englandplayer' rathether than 'Im a Liverpool player' camp, he needs to step back.
I like Gerrard concentrating on Liverpool but I wouldnt be arsed if he was England captain as I know he is Liverpool before England.
Im getting worried about Crouch though, I think he is straying to much in to the 'im an Englandplayer' rathether than 'Im a Liverpool player' camp, he needs to step back.
Agree!
I'd be gutted if Lampard would be selected as England captain... Or John Terry for that matter... The best captain for England is Gerrard! He might be quiet off the pitch but on it, he is a real menace! And that's what England needs! :rock:
REDSCOUSER
08-08-06, 06:40 PM
He deserves the England captaincy.
Yes he does, no doubt. But, I'd rather him take us to the next level than to deal with stupidities such as dealing with the next Andorra or San Marino game.
my only worry is that mclaren is going to be shit for england....so god help the captain who has to listen to that boring ex manc will drag the life out of any man
Maestro
08-08-06, 10:58 PM
Why couldn't yer post this in the thread about Gerrad as Captain?
And I bet everyone who disagrees with his appointment if it happens will be a foreigner:D
You're a foreigner, from where I'm sitting! :D
If Gerrard can't do it, no one can. :D
It's about time England had a real captain. ;)
SouthAfricaRed
09-08-06, 04:14 AM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
:handshake: I hope he picks an argument with McClaren and retires from International Footy :D
brendan
09-08-06, 09:59 AM
I like Gerrard concentrating on Liverpool but I wouldnt be arsed if he was England captain as I know he is Liverpool before England.
Im getting worried about Crouch though, I think he is straying to much in to the 'im an Englandplayer' rathether than 'Im a Liverpool player' camp, he needs to step back.
I don't he needs to worry too much. If we get Kuyt I don't think he'll be starting too many games for club OR country.
I don't he needs to worry too much. If we get Kuyt I don't think he'll be starting too many games for club OR country.
Surely Ashton's introduction into the scene now too, means Crouch is being slowly shuffled out of the setup?
I don't he needs to worry too much. If we get Kuyt I don't think he'll be starting too many games for club OR country.
think you will be dissapointed still think crouch will get plenty of games
brendan
09-08-06, 10:05 AM
Surely Ashton's introduction into the scene now too, means Crouch is being slowly shuffled out of the setup?
Bent, Defoe, Ashton are being brought back in by McClaren.
All are better than Rodders, and arguably Ashton can do a similar job, but with added goal threat.
Even Marlon Harewood's better than Crouch.
Peter Delvechio
09-08-06, 10:09 AM
Maybe this would be a good time to sell him - before he loses his England place.
Bent, Defoe, Ashton are being brought back in by McClaren.
All are better than Rodders, and arguably Ashton can do a similar job, but with added goal threat.
Still think crouch will make the bench. Sixgoals in ten games is not a bad stike rate for an england goalscorer!
Don Quixote
09-08-06, 10:10 AM
I reckon Bent-Rooney will be the strike partnership in future years. I also hope Mclaren has the sense to partner Gerrard with Hargreaves (or Carrick) in CM.
Expect Scotty Parker to be given a chance too.
He's Carrick with balls (If a little slower).
I reckon Bent-Rooney will be the strike partnership in future years. I also hope Mclaren has the sense to partner Gerrard with Hargreaves (or Carrick) in CM.
dont hold your breath!
Even Marlon Harewood's better than Crouch.
hmmmmm better goalscorer yes.
hmmmmm better goalscorer yes.
Better player.
Don Quixote
09-08-06, 10:17 AM
dont hold your breath!
If not, then I refuse to cheer for England.
brendan
09-08-06, 10:18 AM
Expect Scotty Parker to be given a chance too.
He's Carrick with balls (If a little slower).
Parker's not quick by any means, but I doubt he's slower than Tin-Man Carrick.
Parker's not quick by any means, but I doubt he's slower than Tin-Man Carrick.
I quite like Parker actually, even though he does run like he's good a bunch of prunes lodged up his brown.
I was never a fan of Carrick, I think it's the hair and the exceedingly small mouth. Is it normal for a grown man to have a mouth that small? Weird.
kerfuffle
09-08-06, 10:23 AM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
If I'm totally honest, I couldn't give a flying fcuk if Stevie is or isn't England Captain.
i would take parker over carrick....carrick is one dimensional. At least parker gets a fewgoals
kerfuffle
09-08-06, 10:50 AM
i would take parker over carrick....carrick is one dimensional. At least parker gets a fewgoals
Carrick is a better player than parker.
Peter Delvechio
09-08-06, 10:52 AM
I prefer Parker myself. I always thought that Carrick was over-rated and I still do. I hope I'm right.
Mumsafan
09-08-06, 10:54 AM
You're a foreigner, from where I'm sitting! :D
Thanks Will
Carrick is a better player than parker.
Parker that season he played for charlton was better than carrick has ever been imo
Peter Delvechio
09-08-06, 11:06 AM
That's exactly what I think. If Parker can return to (and improve on) those levels of performance he'll be a great player for Newcastle.
Change the fucking record Ryan, brendan and Peter Delvechio :shake:
Peter Delvechio
09-08-06, 12:40 PM
Jaysus, have I been talking about Scott Parker too much?
Posted this in the footy forum but may as well post it here too. This source (Belfast Telegraph - with respect, what would they know?!) seems to think the job is Gerrard's...
Gerrard takes lead in England captaincy race
The formal announcement on Friday will form the core part of Steve McClaren's new England era but it seems that the likelihood is now that he will name Steven Gerrard as his captain for the Euro 2008 qualification campaign and beyond. The Liverpool captain is understood to have edged ahead of John Terry in McClaren's thinking.
Gerrard, 26, was given the full backing of his club manager Rafael Benitez yesterday to get the job, which for a long time has been perceived as a two-horse race between the Liverpool captain and Terry. Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand and Frank Lampard have all been touted as outsiders to succeed David Beckham, but the momentum appears to be on the side of Gerrard, who led his club to the European Cup in 2005.
Counting against Terry, 25, are the occasionally lurid revelations about his private life which have ranged from his tangle with bouncers outside the Wellington nightclub in London * he was cleared of affray in August 2002 * and have more recently concerned his relationships. Before the World Cup his partner, Toni Poole, gave birth to twins but the Chelsea captain is regarded as something of a liability when it comes to kiss-and-tells.
While Beckham and, indeed, McClaren are no strangers to similar allegations, it would seem that the safer bet is Gerrard, who is regarded as more adept at handling the pressures that the England captaincy now involves. From dealing with the media to maintaining a squeaky-clean image, as well as leading the team on the pitch, it would appear that Gerrard is better qualified for the enormous job that the captaincy became during Beckham's six years.
Although he has been a successful captain of Liverpool since 2003 Gerrard is perceived as an unusually introspective player who does not fit the tub-thumping profile of a traditional football leader.
Benitez said yesterday that he had asked McClaren about the identity of the new captain when the England manager visited the club's training ground this week, but was not let into the secret. Benitez's and McClaren's relationship goes back beyond the Spaniard's arrival at Liverpool as it was McClaren who arranged for him to watch Manchester United train during a brief spell Benitez had out of management.
"He [Gerrard] is more mature and he can do both jobs," Benitez said. "Maybe if he became the England captain it would help him to be really focused on football and improve even more. I talked a lot with Steve McClaren and joked with him about the new captain, but he wouldn't tell me. He smiled, but he didn't say. I don't need to campaign to Steve. He has made his decision, he has known the players for a few years and now we need to wait."
Benitez praised McClaren for being able to make quick decisions and said that they had a strong relationship. McClaren will watch Liverpool play Maccabi Haifa tonight, Tottenham play Real Sociedad on Saturday and the Community Shield between Chelsea and Liverpool on Sunday.
"He [Gerrard] is learning and thinking more about the game. As a manager you always want to see your players improve and Stevie has the potential to improve even more," Benitez said. "Each year I hope to see him understand the game and analyse every situation better * and he is. [As captain] he must be an example on the pitch and off it. Stevie knows this and the main quality he has is the passion he gives on the pitch."
While the identity of the third new man in McClaren's coaching team, alongside the manager and technical adviser, Terry Venables, is as yet unknown, the way was cleared yesterday with the departure of Sammy Lee. The former England international had been a part-time coach under Sven Goran Eriksson but turned down the job of managing the England Under-21s on a full-time basis and will remain as the assistant at Bolton.
McClaren is understood not to have wanted Lee in his set-up and by offering him the Under-21s job, which would have meant Lee leaving Bolton, was able to ease him out. A full-time Under-21s coach will be appointed to work with the current coach, the Crystal Palace manager Peter Taylor, whose England role will then diminish.
REDSCOUSER
10-08-06, 03:06 PM
Haha,
Let Terry deal with the media crap now.
Gerrard to lead the REDS into Prem glory this season ;)
Red mate, does the prediction game start for Sunday's game?
enema of the state
10-08-06, 03:10 PM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
agree 100%
let mr cokey boy have all the media attention...how long before his ma's antics hit the redtops now???
great news for lfc
rezaeos
10-08-06, 06:15 PM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
:handshake: Hello Art; I agree 100%. Ther's plenty of time for SG to lead his country after number 19, 20, 21, 22,..., are won!
REDSCOUSER
10-08-06, 06:22 PM
:handshake: Hello Art; I agree 100%. Ther's plenty of time for SG to lead his country after number 19, 20, 21, 22,..., are won!
Hello Rez mate :handshake: long time no see
Hows the weather in Vic ?
Gerrard is better off without the captaincy, let Chav scum deal with all the hassle ;)
rezaeos
10-08-06, 06:37 PM
Hello Rez mate :handshake: long time no see
Hows the weather in Vic ?
Gerrard is better off without the captaincy, let Chav scum deal with all the hassle ;)
I was on vacation for a while and am happy to see all friends here. Victoria is rainy today. I was in Vancouver yesterday what a crazy place:D .
How's kenneth doing?
Terry:rock: for England captain. Leave SG to get on with the important stuff.
REDSCOUSER
10-08-06, 08:33 PM
I was on vacation for a while and am happy to see all friends here. Victoria is rainy today. I was in Vancouver yesterday what a crazy place:D .
How's kenneth doing?
Terry:rock: for England captain. Leave SG to get on with the important stuff.
yeh it's not like England are gonna win anything soon like:haha:
:handshake:
Not in our livetimes. More '66 guff then :rolleyes:
DeeGame
11-08-06, 09:21 AM
Of England. ;)
He should concentrate on winning LFC #19. The England captaincy is a distraction he does not need.
Thoughts ?
I agree with that.
Concentrate on :lfc: not england
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