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    After losing the FA Cup tie against Manchester United1, Ryan Babel took to Twitter in record time.

    "And they call him one of the best referees? That’s a joke. SMH"

    Soon after the tweet heard around the world, Babel went on to post a picture that portrayed Webb officiating while wearing a Man Utd shirt. I seriously doubt that he did it himself based on the length of time between the end of the match and his first tweet. More than likely, it was a link sent to him by one of his 150,000+ followers.

    News of the tweets quickly spread and before long, The Guardian was reporting on it as well as tweets by Paul Dalglish. Ryan Babel is now under investigation by the FA and could face disciplinary action. After learning of this, he subsequently apologized. The biggest question on my mind is why are journalists using Twitter as a primary source?

    I am not sure at what point social networking sites became accepted as sources of news, but I wish that I could turn back the clock and slap the first person to ever report on such a thing. When reading a message from an account on Facebook or Twitter, the words written cannot be looked upon as a factual statement from the account holder. There is no digital signature established by an SSL login. There is also no way to be sure that the person punching the keys to send the message is who they are supposed to be. What would you do in the case of a lost or stolen phone? As far as journalism goes, it is very he said/she said. For bloggers, Twitter and Facebook posts might be fun to discuss and poke fun at, but using them as a serious journalism tool is just lazy. Try conducting an interview.

    As far as the FA is concerned? Get a life. It is the digital equivalent of going into a dressing room and punching a locker. A player, regardless of their club or country, is not going to say anything that has not already been said a thousand times by the fans. The reciprocation of a fine or suspension because of what someone basically wrote in their online journal is quite childish. The only reason for possibly levying a penalty would be simply because they can. If it was allowable to fine fans any time they criticized officiating, they would and we would all be penniless.

    Perhaps players and managers should attempt to shy away from openly criticizing officials. After all, the match officials are operating under stressful conditions and with limited resources. They do not have the luxury of video review or goal line technology, although it would be nice if they did. However, perhaps the FA should stop putting the same handful of referees in similar positions. Perhaps for high profile matches, they should pick officials who do not have a history of controversial decisions during such games. Perhaps the Respect campaign should be replaced by a Don’t be a Douchey Referee campaign. I think I could get behind that.

    #2
    Where's the pic that he posted on ****ter ?
    Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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        #4
        No really. Where's the pic?
        Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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          #5
          **** knows, I think he re-tweeted it. He must've deleted the entry.

          So are you inferring theirs needing legal proof to do something? (They'd do it anyways and not give a **** 'Well he's apologised on his twitter account, so he must be guilty!!!11')

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            #6
            Originally posted by sean_lfc View Post
            **** knows, I think he re-tweeted it. He must've deleted the entry.

            So are you inferring theirs needing legal proof to do something? (They'd do it anyways and not give a **** 'Well he's apologised on his twitter account, so he must be guilty!!!11')
            No mate. I just want to see what he's in the sh*t for, good for a laugh and all that
            Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.

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              #7
              Its probably this one....



              Double edit - now Sean's is showing up. wtf?
              Last edited by MrMichael; 10-01-11, 08:08 AM.
              I could not dig, I dared not rob:
              Therefore I lied to please the mob.
              Now all my lies are proved untrue
              And I must face the men I slew.
              What tale shall serve me here among
              Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                #8
                As long as the referees don't need to explain their decisions after the games then they must also be prepared to take a lot of **** from players and managers.

                You can't have it one way.
                Stop the cyberhate


                from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                Susan Black

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                  #9
                  It's annoying when refereeing decisions overshadow the actual football. Webb is probably loving all this additional attention. I don't want to watch a referee. The inconsistency shown by Howard Webb when considering De Jong's yellow card in the WC final is staggering.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Arn View Post
                    As long as the referees don't need to explain their decisions after the games then they must also be prepared to take a lot of **** from players and managers.

                    You can't have it one way.

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                      #11
                      I know we all think it, and can understand his frustration but I think as a player he has been foolish/naive in posting it, as it can come back to haunt him, (fine/suspension).

                      I can see clubs banning players from using sites such as twitter
                      The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                        #12
                        It's not only Webb that is the problem. How many CLEAR cut red cards could Man U got just in the last few games? I think it is something like five or six clear cut ones. In their last league game both Neville and Vidic should have been sent off. Both of the incidents clear cut red cards.

                        The Arn files is closed for good because the evidence is out there that the game is corrupt. Now almost everyone agree with what I said for years.

                        I don't think Webb's penalty record at OT is anything special. Almost every ref probably have more or less the same record.
                        Stop the cyberhate


                        from now on I will skip talking about our finances. That is a promise and will save myself from looking like a

                        Susan Black

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                          #13
                          Ive no issues with Babel doing this, Id pat him on the back well done lad.

                          I would be pretty sure we will be seeing the ref who comes close and maybe even passes Webb's biased performances at Anfield for the Derby or when the mancs come, Martin Atkinson, another utter ****bag ref.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Danoner Forrest View Post
                            Ive no issues with Babel doing this, Id pat him on the back well done lad.

                            I would be pretty sure we will be seeing the ref who comes close and maybe even passes Webb's biased performances at Anfield for the Derby or when the mancs come, Martin Atkinson, another utter ****bag ref.
                            Would you still say that if he gets a suspension? Because I can see the FA taking action for players comments/actions on sites like twitter, and this is exactly the sort of thing that the FA would do it for.
                            The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.

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                              #15
                              I don't see what the big deal is myself.
                              He can post what he likes on Twitter it doesn't change much...

                              Typical football news storm in teacup scenario.
                              Modifying post.

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