Saint Mike is back.

[AFII]

Newcastle shareholder

Dunk?

[Monkeywool]

I miss St Mike

[Steve]

I couldn't give a **** about Michael Owen, quite frankly.

[Johnny]

I miss St Mike

And he misses us,

[Monkeywool]

And he misses us,

I wondered this before, and I have asked a few friends a fair few times but none of us can come up with a good answer. Who ever has left Liverpool after establishing themselves and gone on to have a great career, establishing themselves with a great club and winning loads.

McManaman is what my friend argues, but I don't agree, he was not really a regular at Madrid, so he didn't establish himself, and he didn't get a renewed contract.

Can't think of anyone who has left us and gone on to greater things, Owen should have known this....

[Ron_Mexico]

McManaman is what my friend argues, but I don't agree, he was not really a regular at Madrid, so he didn't establish himself, and he didn't get a renewed contract.

sorry but that's wrong, macca was a key part of the first team in his first season or so at madrid. he was a casualty of the galactico policy after that. nothing to do with ability, all to do with marketing. makelele was another victim. two chamions league medals, and a couple la liga titles- i think that is pretty successful

[wildman]

Owen would've seen this. So the notion that Madrid would've backed down, if Owen had stamped his feet, is hardly what i'd call solid.[/QUOTE]

Player power always wins in the end

[Craig_H]

Player power always wins in the end

Like it did for Morientes?

[marcus50bucks]

Exactly.

What do you mean exactly? Hand on heart do you really believe Owen didn't mislead the fans? Ok, he didn't categorically say he would sign a new contract but he was clearly intimating this would be the case.

How many times did we all see Owen on sky news stating contract talks were going well, even to the point where he confirmed he is as close as ever to signing a new contract? For me as a liverpool fan, I took that as a clear indication he wanted to stay. However behind closed doors, I firmly believe Owen was keeping his options open. I also believe he was shifting the goalposts.

DJS, I really cannot understand how you amongst others can defend the way Owen treated us.

[marcus50bucks]

Exactly.

What do you mean exactly? Hand on heart do you really believe Owen didn't mislead the fans? Ok, he didn't categorically say he would sign a new contract but he was clearly intimating this would be the case.

How many times did we all see Owen on sky news stating contract talks were going well, even to the point where he confirmed he is as close as ever to signing a new contract? For me as a liverpool fan, I took that as a clear indication he wanted to stay. However behind closed doors I firmly believe Owen was keeping his options open. I also believe he was shifting the goal posts.

DJS, I really cannot undertsand how you amongst others can defend the way Owen treated us.

[AFII]

I don't defend the way he left us but I would welcome him back because it would be on Rafas terms if he comes back and that he believes that Owen would make the team better.

[marcus50bucks]

I don't defend the way he left us but I would welcome him back because it would be on Rafas terms if he comes back and that he believes that Owen would make the team better.

AFII, we have been through this so many times on koptalk, you then continue it on this site. What's the point? Owen is not and imo will never get another chance to return to Liverpool.

[Craig_H]

What do you mean exactly? Hand on heart do you really believe Owen didn't mislead the fans? Ok, he didn't categorically say he would sign a new contract but he was clearly intimating this would be the case.

How many times did we all see Owen on sky news stating contract talks were going well, even to the point where he confirmed he is as close as ever to signing a new contract? For me as a liverpool fan, I took that as a clear indication he wanted to stay. However behind closed doors I firmly believe Owen was keeping his options open. I also believe he was shifting the goal posts.

DJS, I really cannot undertsand how you amongst others can defend the way Owen treated us.

He 'treated' us just like footballers treat most things. He said what he said, either because it was true at the time and circumstances changed, or because he wanted to be misleading. I dont know for sure which it was.

But the point is, that happens in football, and i can accept that. It was 3 years ago and i'm well over it. I dont hold any kind of grudge or anything.

As for the prospect of him coming back, i dont think about things like that with emotions. Business is business and if Owen returning to LFC is best for the club, then i'd want it to happen. We're not doing him any favours, he'd be back to score goals for US, and he would do.

[Craig_H]

AFII, we have been through this so many times on koptalk, you then continue it on this site. What's the point? Owen is not and imo will never get another chance to return to Liverpool.

As you say though, that's in your opinion. You may be right or not.

But it's discuss-able surely?

[marcus50bucks]

As you say though, that's in your opinion. You may be right or not.

But it's discuss-able surely?

How many times are you going to discuss the same topic? He is not even a liverpool player anymore. It's been done to death yet people love to start these threads. I haven't commented on an Owen thread for a while now but just wanted to make a couple of points.